So can we punch a hole and use these in a DCC tank? Cause if so I'm buying a bunch for my wife so hates clearos and is stubbornly sticking to her cartos...
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but we dont just sell to ecf, we have customers all over the world and are reaching new customers as well, what might not be for you might be perfect for someone else, not all people are looking for tanks and the latest gear even though we are, people buying blue cigs and those in a retail arent concerned with a darwin and a dct.
Not exactly sure how you can say all this when you haven't tried one?
When I hit on one of my Fully Mod-ed CE2's filled with 100% PG, I get No Vapor what so ever. When I fill the Same CE2 with 100% VG it will set off the Smoke Alarm.
So is a Few sceens on a Video a good Judge of Vapor Product?
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I completely get the concept. I wasn't saying its wrong, just clarifying what an earlier poster was regarding. I quit smoking with Blu, and even though i have come a long way I still remember them. I think its important to have these products for the conversion, however this thread is full of experienced people which doesn't appear to be marketed for them, or myself. From the start of this thread I thought this was a completely different product than what it really is.
Not exactly sure how you can say all this when you haven't tried one?
When I hit on one of my Fully Mod-ed CE2's filled with 100% PG, I get No Vapor what so ever. When I fill the Same CE2 with 100% VG it will set off the Smoke Alarm.
So is a Few sceens on a Video a good Judge of Vapor Product?
I'm pretty sure he was referencing the review video, which is there to help guide you to a products capabilities.
So yes, that's what it is for. And I think we know the difference in PG/VG liquids. Not sure what that point was you were trying to get to.
Just saying that how can a person knows if something works or not Until the try it for themselves?
Well, after watching the video, I just can't see myself wanting to ride the "Stallion". From what I had read on the Liqua site, I was under the impression that it had a revolutionary new heating system, but judging from the video, it's more like a cross between a regular CE2 and filler carto and won't even fit a regular drip tip. Sorry to sound so negative, but I just don't see why Gotvapes would hold back the Phoenix Raven, which DOES have a revolutionary new design and DOES have consistent flavor and vapor since it's getting away from using vacuum, to sell something like the Stallion. At this point, I'm just shaking my head and thinking "WHY, guys???"
ON the other hand, if the Stallion DOES help new vapers make the switch, then hoorah! Misson accomplished as far as getting people away from Big Tobacco.
AND... If enough people blow their budget on Stallions, then that will hopefully help the Ravens not sell out too fast so I can get plenty of them. LOL
ON the other hand, if the Stallion DOES help new vapers make the switch, then hoorah! Misson accomplished as far as getting people away from Big Tobacco.
AND... If enough people blow their budget on Stallions, then that will hopefully help the Ravens not sell out too fast so I can get plenty of them. LOL
You gotta admit a freshly, properly filled filler carto tastes great and performs great, if this can replicate that experience ocsistantly with no filler taste then I'm sold! If this does replicate that then wouldn't that be revolutionary?
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We aren't holding back the Raven at all. This is just a different project one that has been worked on for quite awhile...and it does have a 3.0ohm coil that does perform much like a 2.0 ohm coil, this provides better battery life and extends the life of the carto. It is prefilled with a juice that is much better than most pre-filled cartos, so it has alot going for it.
Prefilleds are something we always have wanted to provide but we haven't liked the options out there. There is a segment of the market that likes pre-filleds for various reasons. If its not for you then its not for you.
We aren't holding back the Raven at all. This is just a different project one that has been worked on for quite awhile...and it does have a 3.0ohm coil that does perform much like a 2.0 ohm coil, this provides better battery life and extends the life of the carto. It is prefilled with a juice that is much better than most pre-filled cartos, so it has alot going for it.
Prefilleds are something we always have wanted to provide but we haven't liked the options out there. There is a segment of the market that likes pre-filleds for various reasons. If its not for you then its not for you.
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I don't think he was arguing whether it works or not, by context it reads as though he is confused by all the hype and revolutionary hybrid talk when this release came as a letdown for him. That said, I am just trying to explain what I think the poster meant, I could be wrong.
What you all need to remember.....it's not JUST experienced vapors that view these threads....there are new Vapers joining ECF everyday. They have don't have the experience and knowledge that a lot of us do. And quite honestly, a lot of what we hold dear in our vaping arsenal could be quite offesetting to a brand new vaper.
This is a great step for the vaping community. Will it be THE thing for everyone? Of course not....but neither are the Stardusts or the Nova.
I think GotVapes learned a hard lesson awhile back...there was a time when the first started that some relatively untested stuff was being sold (Turbine anyone? I sear, try and tell me that wasn't a piece of crap pie, I'll go ninja on you) and there were complaints posted often. They got more involved, tested the crap out of things and even put out an Alpha section. I think if this was lacking...it would be in the Alpha section...but again...one thing I learned from the TW debacle last week is that you can't judge something without trying it.
I think it's the fact that you can't see through them...these days people associate seeing through something as being the new product on the block, pro style. Looking at the Liqua site...I did think the insides were going to be different, I don't know who drew the diagram on their site, but it's not accurate.
Anyway...anyone who knows me, knows I'm a tough cookie when it comes to vaping gear...but I'm also all about being fair...these need to be tried then judged. $7 to try something out isn't all that bad...I ordered a crap load of them to have a good enough sampling for my testing.
I think it's the fact that you can't see through them...these days people associate seeing through something as being the new product on the block, pro style. Looking at the Liqua site...I did think the insides were going to be different, I don't know who drew the diagram on their site, but it's not accurate.
Anyway...anyone who knows me, knows I'm a tough cookie when it comes to vaping gear...but I'm also all about being fair...these need to be tried then judged. $7 to try something out isn't all that bad...I ordered a crap load of them to have a good enough sampling for my testing.
It's this discussion in itself, that is truely great for the vaping community. Likes, Dislikes, "What if" personal opinions, comments, suggestions,...all leads to new thinking/better understanding..eventually becoming better products for all.
Keep it up, everyone...
Keep it up, everyone...
Well, I decided to edit my reply to this because I'm starting to feel like I'm beating a dead horse.
Danno, Chris, I'm not meaning to sound like I'm trolling and if the Stallion helps new vapers get away from the pack of donkeys known as Big Tobacco, then GREAT, but I'm sure I'm not the only advanced vaper sitting here "chomping at the bit" for you guys to release the Ravens.
On a side note, from what I gathered from the video, If you would like some ideas in case you decide to re-shoe the next corral of Stallions, here's what I can think of:
Instead of a full wrap of filler material, try using strips that are roughly double or triple the width of the wicks on each side between the wick and the casing.
Make the cartomizer casing itself both long enough to accomodate an unmodifed drip tip AND make them at least the length of a DCT carto.
Offer some in stainless in the future, to appeal to tank users.
I hope this helps.
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Thanks--they tried less filler similar to what you are talkign about but it caused leaking...
By the way these are steel with a wrap around them, you can remove that sticker like people did the steel Fluxomizers when we carried those...
Again I am puzzled about the Raven questions...the Ravens are coming along fine. This is a project that actually predated the Ravens and has now finally been delivered to us. These were not produced in lieu of the Ravens or caused any delay to the Raven manufacturer, different manufacturers.
By the way these are steel with a wrap around them, you can remove that sticker like people did the steel Fluxomizers when we carried those...
Again I am puzzled about the Raven questions...the Ravens are coming along fine. This is a project that actually predated the Ravens and has now finally been delivered to us. These were not produced in lieu of the Ravens or caused any delay to the Raven manufacturer, different manufacturers.
It's hard to release something you don't have in hand
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