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[stols001]

Yeah but he also wants free school for all (like college) and some other weird stuff. I don't know how you get that without taxing or socialism.

I don't really know WHAT he is but he is not a classic libertarian like that is somewhat socialist.

I don't trust the muppet. I TRUSTED his running mate last time that dude was UNIMPECHABLE and I mean that literally. Told the truth, made sense, wish I could remember his name.

IDK politicians like "morph" dude. All you gotta do is look at before and after pics of presidency to see a) you don't get enough sleep and b) the spirit of Satan inhabits you and you are left with DEMON or even the bit A with your shrew of a wife caring for you.

I cannot imagine the "just say no lady" as my personal big A caretaker. She wasn't RIGHT. She'd probably short me my A drugs and say, "Just say no, Anna." And I would be like: "Drool." Not the good kind of drool either, like "YEAH GIMME DRUGS OPIATES ALL OF THEM."

Just drool.

Regan was....Not the worst prez of all time but she have may been the worst first lady by a country MILE. Dude.

Anna

 

[Katya]

Well, it's pretty obvious...we know he won't tax anything, and isn't really in favor of government control of anything, right?

And congratulations.

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[classwife]

Ok, enough.
What part of Keep the political stuff out of the discussions do you not understand ?
Who you vote for, why you vote or will vote for them, who you hate blah-blah-blah...partisan comments...Democrats/Republicans and slurs of them...
That is the "political stuffs" that doesn't belong.
I have been telling the same people again and again for the past few weeks.
You thoughts and opinions on politicians/parties are not for General vaping Discussion, take it to The Outside.
pleaseandthankyou!

 

[LoveVanilla]

Oops, sorry classwife. Mum is the word. Sometimes anger about the lunacy of our current situations just leaks out.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

Yeah but he also wants free school for all (like college) and some other weird stuff. I don't know how you get that without taxing or socialism.

I don't really know WHAT he is but he is not a classic libertarian like that is somewhat socialist.

I don't trust the muppet. I TRUSTED his running mate last time that dude was UNIMPECHABLE and I mean that literally. Told the truth, made sense, wish I could remember his name.

IDK politicians like "morph" dude. All you gotta do is look at before and after pics of presidency to see a) you don't get enough sleep and b) the spirit of Satan inhabits you and you are left with DEMON or even the bit A with your shrew of a wife caring for you.

I cannot imagine the "just say no lady" as my personal big A caretaker. She wasn't RIGHT. She'd probably short me my A drugs and say, "Just say no, Anna." And I would be like: "Drool." Not the good kind of drool either, like "YEAH GIMME DRUGS OPIATES ALL OF THEM."

Just drool.

Regan was....Not the worst prez of all time but she have may been the worst first lady by a country MILE. Dude.

Anna

Surprised at you, girl! It was an attempt at humor.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

And congratulations.

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Thanks, @Katya . I didn't even know!

 

[stols001]

It is very hard to keep politics out of vaping, but I will do my best to not write any political stuff. I will simply start imagining that the Giant Spaghetti Monster in the sky is doing this, and that will be my response at all times.

And a very happy colander to you, today.

Stock up, his gooey tentacles are coming any day now.

Anna

 

[Georgia Boy]

Update from Paul Blair who had a meeting with the OMB scheduled for Friday, here is what he got, the important part is "Since the rule is no longer under review". I suspect an announcement is imminent probably this week. IMHO it will not be good news but whatever it is, has to go be be signed, then a review, law suits will be filed etc.

 

[LoveVanilla]

FYI, below indicates that teens have a stronger preference to Juul than to "sweet" flavors. And, if Juul or govenment bans mint, most will probably switch to Juul tobacco flavor rather than other ecig flavored products i.e. the problem is with juul NOT flavored ecigs.

New research shows U.S. teens who use electronic cigarettes prefer ones made by Juul Labs, and mint is the top flavor for many of them. That suggests a shift after Juul's sweeter flavors were removed from retail stores.

Link to Source (broken to 3 pieces):

 www.expressnews.com/news/medical/article/Teen

 -vaping-numbers

 -climb-fueled-by-Juul-and-14810405.php

 

[BigPappa]

FYI, below indicates that teens have a stronger preference for Juul than for "sweet" flavors. If Juul or govenment bans mint, likely most will switch to Juul tobacco flavors rather than other ecig flavored products i.e. the problem is with juul NOT flavored ecigs.


Link to Source (broken to 3 pieces):

 www.expressnews.com/news/medical/article/Teen

 -vaping-numbers

 -climb-fueled-by-Juul-and-14810405.php

Just curious, why do you always break up links like that?

 

[LoveVanilla]

Just curious, why do you always break up links like that?

Search engines build authoritative rank (i.e. one of their ranking parameters) based on external links to a source. If you don't want to build rank to a source, then break links. Here's an ecf post on the subject:

PLEASE READ! Breaking Links to Junk Science and Other Rubbish Posts​

 

[BigPappa]

Search engines build authoritative rank (i.e. one of their ranking parameters) based on external links to a source. If you don't want to build rank to a source, then break links. Here's an ecf post on the subject:

PLEASE READ! Breaking Links to Junk Science and Other Rubbish Posts​

That's not really the case any longer. About 5-6 years ago Google changed their algorithms and they no longer place as much weight as they used to on inbound links. How do I know this? I used to make a living from it. I had over 1,000 domain names and sold hardlinks by the month/year to website owners to help them increase their rankings. Yes, I was a contributor to the problem. I made buttloads of money from it and lived a lavish lifestyle. When they changed their algorithm it basically put me out of business and into the poor house. I now have to mow my own lawn and clean my own pool. Hardlinks might matter slightly now, but it is so minuscule that it has very little impact by itself. Because of people like me and the webmasters who bought links, Google now focuses on countless other metrics that are rated more important.

 

[LoveVanilla]

That's not really the case any longer. About 5-6 years ago Google changed their algorithms and they no longer place as much weight as they used to on inbound links. How do I know this? I used to make a living from it. I had over 1,000 domain names and sold hardlinks by the month/year to website owners to help them increase their rankings. Yes, I was a contributor to the problem. I made buttloads of money from it and lived a lavish lifestyle. When they changed their algorithm it basically put me out of business and into the poor house. I now have to mow my own lawn and clean my own pool. Hardlinks might matter slightly now, but it is so minuscule that it has very little impact by itself. Because of people like me and the webmasters who bought links, Google now focuses on countless other metrics that are rated more important.

You describe me as well. With background in software and linguistics, 3-400 domains, and used to run drop analytics service. Though still pay someone for the lawn and pool cleaning. True, several hundreds factors now used in their ranking algorithms. And, though still important, can be discounted and overridden by other factors. They got you on the change from counting inbound links for authority to also weighting these inbound links based on the authority of the linking source. They also use N-grams found on the internet to create word clusters/associations which is why I broke the link the way I did. Cheers

 

[MsBree]

File from Perfumer's Apprentice!

Thanks, very helpful!

 

[LoveVanilla]

FYI, my read of the current tea leaves seems to be that the spin/focus is shifting from a general flavor ban to something specifically targeting Juul and perhaps nicotine salts (this is prognostication rather than knowledge).

Studies show teen e-cigarette users favor Juul products, mint flavors as Trump considers ban (The Hill)
Teen e-cigarette users increasingly prefer mint-flavored Juul — so how effective is nixing fruit flavors? (Marketwatch)
Teens like vaping mint and mango Juul flavors over menthol and tobacco, study finds (Rollcall)
Special Report: Juul disregarded early evidence it was hooking teens (MSN)
"No one thought it was bad": One teen's struggle with Juul addiction (Reuters)
Amid deaths and illnesses, teen vaping numbers climb, thanks in part to mint flavored Juul (USA Today)​

 

[Georgia Boy]

Something that could be Good News, all over Social Media this morning, link posted below, it seems Adult Vape Shops/Stores may be exempted from flavor bans. The article is from Bloomberg News quoting Kellyann Conway.

Maybe the ousting of a Republican Governor in KY last night had some effect after all, he was expected to win handily but lost by over 5,000 votes, I'm sure someone from KY, knows better then I though.

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-06/vaping-shops-likely-to-be-exempted-in-planned-fda-e-cig-curbs

 

[Katya]

Keep calling the White House, folks! Keep calling. We have to make noise and let them know we're watching and voting. Before it's too late!

National Call to Action - Light up the White House Switchboard

The White House needs to hear from adult vapers and anyone who loves a vaper! A flavor ban won’t protect our children, but it will kill their parents.

We need to
Light Up The Switchboard
At The Whitehouse!
Ph: 202-456-1111
(Comment Line)
or
202-456-1414
(Switchboard)

On your call:

• The operator will likely ask where they can direct your call
• Simply tell them that flavored vapor products saved your life,
• Tobacco and Menthol aren't enough to save small businesses or help people quit smoking; and,
• tell them “We Vape, We Vote.

Be polite, be brief, and say thank you.

On hold? Here's something to do while you wait: Send a Message!

 

[BigPappa]

Something that could be Good News, all over Social Media this morning, link posted below, it seems Adult Vape Shops/Stores may be exempted from flavor bans. The article is from Bloomberg News quoting Kellyann Conway.

Maybe the ousting of a Republican Governor in KY last night had some effect after all, he was expected to win handily but lost by over 5,000 votes, I'm sure someone from KY, knows better then I though.

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-06/vaping-shops-likely-to-be-exempted-in-planned-fda-e-cig-curbs

Wow. I did not see that one coming!

 

[stols001]

I am guessing this means the 9K per liter tax bill on nic is going to pass.

I would not put it past those sneaky devils to tax it AGAIN, not just supplier but BUYER.

And then there is deeming but I sort of have a feeling if the pols tell the FDA (Flying Spaghetti monster) to knock it off with the dang deeming stuff, they would comply.

It's just a guess.
Anna

 

[Georgia Boy]

Wow. I did not see that one coming!

Nobody did, just whether it's true, has The Donald agreed to it, it is however inline with earlier in the year FDA statements, again we have to wait and see. If only they could all get their together but then they wouldn't be Politicians would they, they'd have a real job