Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch - Part Four

[MikeE3]

No rioting over what I got for Christmas please.
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Bacon ... what could be wrong w/ bacon jam, it has bacon in it.

OK ... I did find something I didn't like bacon w/ ... pizza ... had a bacon topping on pizza once and didn't like it.

 

[chanelvaps]

As Robert says, you can close it down enough for most tootlers, although it will still be more air than a PT2 (even if your friend has AFC bases on those!)

The OCC heads are easier to rebuild than PTs - same principle but bigger - and the rba head comes with it. Both good for "future-proofing" should they ever want to go there.

hmmm more air than a Protank with Air Flow Control might be a problem for her. I did not think most tootle puffers like much air and I do not think she does.
thanks

 

[2legsshrt]

Kanger Subtank Mini. You can build or not with it. I would say to start with a 1.2 ohm coil at about 10-12 watts. Good selection of coils available for it.
Simple design and reliable with good adjustable airflow. You friend might want to use a smaller bore driptip on it though when starting out with it. I did.

The latest air flow device on the subtank is for Tootle Puffers. It has a wide open selection and if you go to the right you get a fairly tight air flow too tight for me and if you go to the left real tight air flow. This is their very latest change. Evidently they did it to make the Tootle Puffers happy but to me it kind of defeats the whole purpose to me. What I have to do to get the same as the middle selection is turn it so one of the small holes is open and part of the wide open is open. I really liked the middle selection they had can't figure why they made it so tight. Now this is the very latest just came out. I got one when I ordered one more extra air flow. I'm glad I only have one. So for sub ohmers you have one choice wide open for TC you have to fiddle with it a little to get it just right. But like I say for Tootle Puffing it is set up well.

 

[2legsshrt]

No rioting over what I got for Christmas please.
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Sounds YUMMY to me.

 

[MikeE3]

hmmm more air than a Protank with Air Flow Control might be a problem for her. I did not think most tootle puffers like much air and I do not think she does.
thanks

What about a Nautilus ... I've never used a Protank so don't know if its an 'upgrade' from one. But it's uses replaceable coils, comes in 2 sizes, and the larger size had an optional 'caged tank' that many people like.

 

[yiddleboge6]

What about a Nautilus ... I've never used a Protank so don't know if its an 'upgrade' from one. But it's uses replaceable coils, comes in 2 sizes, and the larger size had an optional 'caged tank' that many people like.

I'm a tootle puffer who uses mini nautilus tanks and love them......

 

[lulu836]

Only big other issue is whether the mod in question needs flat or button, or can use either.

I wondered that myself. All the info pages are showing flat head so I ordered a couple. If that doesn't work out I'll order something else.

 

[Myrany]

For some reason I thought the Sub tank was for sub ohming?

There are 1.2 ohm coils available for it. SO it does not have to be sub ohm.

 

[chanelvaps]

What about a Nautilus ... I've never used a Protank so don't know if its an 'upgrade' from one. But it's uses replaceable coils, comes in 2 sizes, and the larger size had an optional 'caged tank' that many people like.

I never had a Nautilus but it sort of seemed like Protanks and Nautilus are equivalent. They came out around the same time and one was either in the Protank camp or the Nautilus camp. Seems so many newer better things came out since then but maybe not so much for Tootle Puffers

 

[2legsshrt]

The Nautilus is a great choice for Tootle Puffers. Been around forever and still is that tells you something right there. A lot of people swear by them. I even like a puff or two on the biggest hole but the other 3 are to tight for me. Hey I'm a poet and don't know it but Mikes feet show it.

 

[Kenna]

I feel the same way Kenna. We'll all be there someday unless we are lucky enough to just go in our sleep. That's what I'm hoping for. It's still Mom in there. Reminds me of this that I read I believe on here a long time ago I think I don't really remember.
Cranky Old Man

What do you see nurses? . . .. . .What do you see?
What are you thinking .. . when you're looking at me?
A cranky old man, . . . . . .not very wise,
Uncertain of habit .. . . . . . . .. with faraway eyes?
Who dribbles his food .. . ... . . and makes no reply.
When you say in a loud voice . .'I do wish you'd try!'
Who seems not to notice . . .the things that you do.
And forever is losing . . . . . .. . . A sock or shoe?
Who, resisting or not . . . ... lets you do as you will,
With bathing and feeding . . . .The long day to fill?
Is that what you're thinking?. .Is that what you see?
Then open your eyes, nurse .you're not looking at me.
I'll tell you who I am . . . . .. As I sit here so still,
As I do at your bidding, .. . . . as I eat at your will.
I'm a small child of Ten . .with a father and mother,
Brothers and sisters .. . . .. . who love one another
A young boy of Sixteen . . . .. with wings on his feet
Dreaming that soon now . . .. . . a lover he'll meet.
A groom soon at Twenty . . . ..my heart gives a leap.
Remembering, the vows .. .. .that I promised to keep.
At Twenty-Five, now . . . . .I have young of my own.
Who need me to guide . . . And a secure happy home.
A man of Thirty . .. . . . . My young now grown fast,
Bound to each other . . .. With ties that should last.
At Forty, my young sons .. .have grown and are gone,
But my woman is beside me . . to see I don't mourn.
At Fifty, once more, .. ...Babies play 'round my knee,
Again, we know children . . . . My loved one and me.
Dark days are upon me . . . . My wife is now dead.
I look at the future ... . . . . I shudder with dread.
For my young are all rearing .. . . young of their own.
And I think of the years . . . And the love that I've known.
I'm now an old man . . . . . . .. and nature is cruel.
It's jest to make old age . . . . . . . look like a fool.
The body, it crumbles .. .. . grace and vigor, depart.
There is now a stone . . . where I once had a heart.
But inside this old carcass . A young man still dwells,
And now and again . . . . . my battered heart swells
I remember the joys . . . . .. . I remember the pain.
And I'm loving and living . . . . . . . life over again.
I think of the years, all too few . . .. gone too fast.
And accept the stark fact . . . that nothing can last.
So open your eyes, people .. . . . .. . . open and see.
Not a cranky old man .
Look closer . . . . see .. .. . .. .... . ME!!

Soooo much truth there, Legs! That you for sharing that!

 

[DavidOck]

Bacon ... what could be wrong w/ bacon jam, it has bacon in it.

OK ... I did find something I didn't like bacon w/ ... pizza ... had a bacon topping on pizza once and didn't like it.

Yeah, no bacon on my pizza, either.

And no bacon joose, either!

hmmm more air than a Protank with Air Flow Control might be a problem for her. I did not think most tootle puffers like much air and I do not think she does.
thanks

Mine is an early one, so the changes to the base on later models would likely be fine. And it's possible even with the early stepped size holes to dial down to, for example half the smallest hole.

I wondered that myself. All the info pages are showing flat head so I ordered a couple. If that doesn't work out I'll order something else.

Flat tops should be fine, Lulu, except for Provari's other than the P3 and Radius. (Earlier models required button tops, I think?) Likely some others that require button tops, but everything I have is either flat or "either".

I never had a Nautilus but it sort of seemed like Protanks and Nautilus are equivalent. They came out around the same time and one was either in the Protank camp or the Nautilus camp. Seems so many newer better things came out since then but maybe not so much for Tootle Puffers

Yeah, the marketing went sky high - to the clouds!

 

[yiddleboge6]

I never had a Nautilus but it sort of seemed like Protanks and Nautilus are equivalent. They came out around the same time and one was either in the Protank camp or the Nautilus camp. Seems so many newer better things came out since then but maybe not so much for Tootle Puffers

Protank, Davide, Evod all came out months before the Nautilus. I gave them all away. One advantage with the Nautilus is a sealed 510 post.......I don't have to be continuously swabbing out the 510 connection on my mods

 

[2legsshrt]

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There are 1.2 ohm coils available for it. SO it does not have to be sub ohm.

I think the quit making the 1.2's and replaced them with 1.5's they still have the .5. There are still some 1.2's to be had out there tho I have a ton. Same with the .5's never used them. Well once. So I have 12 of each I think. STM is my only tanks I have any more. Great for everything from subohming to TC to Tootle Puffing. Must be more of the latter then I thought because of their changes. Going for another market all the TCers have em and they never seem to break so they needed a new client base.

 

[2legsshrt]

Protank, Davide, Evod all came out months before the Nautilus. I gave them all away. One advantage with the Nautilus is a sealed 510 post.......I don't have to be continuously swabbing out the 510 connection on my mods

Plus they are purdy with the metal tank on an Istick 40.

 

[Semiretired]

I was like a little kid at mass this morning, had to focus on why I was there, yep that's the real reason. But still, I just wanted to get home and see Miles's reaction to his new toys and the looks on our children faces when they opened their gifts. I still believe.

And that is the way it should be...

 

[Semiretired]

Yeah, no bacon on my pizza, either.

And no bacon joose, either!

Bacon joose - I pass, but bacon bits on a pizza add a little variety that at times is more than acceptable...

 

[2legsshrt]

Wow, Russell, that's a glow in the dark shiner! So glad you didn't crack your skull!

Man you and me and Matt should get together we could hold each other up.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

hmmm more air than a Protank with Air Flow Control might be a problem for her. I did not think most tootle puffers like much air and I do not think she does.
thanks

The V2 Sub Tank MIni's will go tight Well I compared a Protank mini, Evod and T3s and it would go as tight as any of them and tighter than the T3s. The smallest air hole is well under 1/16 inch. Looks to be 1 mm? It is smaller than the 510 pin hole in a protank. there are 2 of them though but the draw is still tight.

the original Sub Tank mini did not have those small air holes.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

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I think the quit making the 1.2's and replaced them with 1.5's they still have the .5. There are still some 1.2's to be had out there tho I have a ton. Same with the .5's never used them. Well once. So I have 12 of each I think. STM is my only tanks I have any more. Great for everything from subohming to TC to Tootle Puffing. Must be more of the latter then I thought because of their changes. Going for another market all the TCers have em and they never seem to break so they needed a new client base.

Nope still 1.2, 1.5 and .5 but all now are vertical coil.
the V2 comes with a .5 installed and a 1.2 and the rba deck.
All for 23.99 at Vaporbeast.
and a spare glass, parts and best of all a little blue screwdriver!

disclaimer. No affiliation with Vaporbeast they just have the best domestic US price I could find on STM's.