Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch - Part Seven

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That's me before that first sip of tea. And unfortunately I have to cut down on my daily tea consumption from 4-6 cups to no more than half for a while. I have hives from drinking too much! Urghhhhh :(
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I broke a major vertebra in my DUI automobile accident at the end of 2012. I can"t remember the name... one of the lowest 3. For decades I'd had problems with that portion of my back, but it had never been nearly as problematic as it became after I broke it.
 

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That's me before that first sip of tea. And unfortunately I have to cut down on my daily tea consumption from 4-6 cups to no more than half for a while. I have hives from drinking too much! Urghhhhh :(
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yipes. that's not good. I remember when I had to severely cut my coffee intake from 1-2 pots to 1-2 cups because of GERD. It stunk, but I got through it. It makes for a miserable week, but your body adapts fairly quickly to the loss of caffeine. That pic was my avatar for a long time. It's still the one on FB but found that out from a game I play on my phone, cuz I don't use FB.

I broke a major vertebra in my DUI automobile accident at the end of 2012. I can"t remember the name... one of the lowest 3. For decades I'd had problems with that portion of my back, but it had never been nearly as problematic as it became after I broke it.
Hopefully they can fix it. The last vertebrae are the coccyx (tailbone) it's 4 that are fused together. up from that is the sacrum. 5 which I believe are also fused. If it's those, they may not be able to do much with surgery. If it's the lumbar, they might. I've got two, either sacrum or coccyx that are broken, and they say surgery won't help. Then again, with your better insurance and more money.......they might be able to fix yours.
 

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Deb this tea hives thing happened to me on e before years ago.

I should have known it would happen again drinking 2 quarts a day. I cut it in half and that will work for me . I too have Gerds but luckily not bad enough that I hVe to give up my tea.
 

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Yep, and pain contributes to weakness and high blood pressure. All systems are intertwined. That is what makes a person.
And they have drugs that will treat the pain and used correctly will work but because of some idiots that wish to use them for play they won't give them to you. Pain does so much besides just hurting. It can make your life miserable.
 

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I remember when I had to severely cut my coffee intake from 1-2 pots to 1-2 cups because of GERD.
I have had to cut it to 1/2 cup a day. Sometimes I can get a cup by later in the day after I have taken enough Omeprozol, on 80mg a day but my esophagus is so screwed up it's rare. I'm ok with tea. I really like the Celestial green and white tea with a hint of lemon lime.
 

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Pain does so much besides just hurting.

8 (on 0-10 scale) all the time. It makes me subject to loss of balance, trips, and falls because I can't feel my feet (because normal sensation is swamped by the pain). It also makes me cranky sometimes.
 

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8 (on 0-10 scale) all the time. It makes me subject to loss of balance, trips, and falls because I can't feel my feet (because normal sensation is swamped by the pain). It also makes me cranky sometimes.
Exactly and it is a real shame that they have treatments that will work and used correctly are safe. They are addicting but so are a lot of things and until they come up with something better should not be withheld from people that legitimately need them. They won't change you into a Zombie or make you rob Pharmacies or make you OD. Heck for that matter they won't even effect your thinking or driving or most anything else after your body becomes used to them and your dosage doesn't even have to be adjusted once they get it right and don't just play with your amounts and not give you the correct amount but find out what amount will work for you without turning you into a blob or leave you with them not working enough.

Someday they will come up with something that will work without becoming addicted but until then the docs should be able to prescribe the correct amounts without being dictated to by the govt or have them scared that they will lose their license. They can tell if you are using them or abusing them without a lot of investigation, and those things are already in place. They know if there are any flags on your Rx history or not almost immediately when checking.

As you can tell this subject really gets me worked up. I try to stay within the guidelines but they keep cutting them. I have voluntarily reduced the amounts I take which my doc didn't require and in fact asked me today if I needed to go back on the dosage I was on because she knows it is hard for me and I am in pain much of the time, I said no I am going to try to make it work, but I did it on my own, but they keep making it harder to stay within the guidelines without the doctor having to fill out endless amounts of paperwork to justify it. I would love to be off completely, not because it would make me feel better but because thats what they want everyone to do, plus it is like a prison sentence as far as finding a doc that will go the extra mile. Don't dare move anywhere else or go on extended vacations without checking the laws in that state. It's crazy.
 
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My only experience with opioids was after kidney surgery (10" incision). They had me hooked to a morphine machine that would give me a small dose every time I pushed the button; however there was a seven minute delay before the button would work again. I was (back when I vaped 36 mg/ml) used to waking frequently to take a puff or three, so on the second night after surgery, I managed to partially wake every seven minutes to push the button without even thinking about it. I sprang awake at around 3 or 4 in the morning, hallucinating like mad and completely unable to go back to sleep. (I had completely emptied the morphine cartridge.) I spent the rest of the night pushing my IV pole up and down the halls. That was it; I completely quit all pain medicine, not even an aspirin; this was 38 hours after the surgery. It still hurt some, but frankly, not as much as my neuropathy (which doesn't respond to painkillers anyhow) hurts me 24/7; I just have to deal with it.

So, no opioids for me. I just don't like them. I can see where they would be useful for someone with chronic pain that responds to opioids, but not for me.
 

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Exactly and it is a real shame that they have treatments that will work and used correctly are safe.
I guard my gabby tightly, now that addicts are discovering that with other substances it makes a cheap high. I hope the mail order system will still work if they try to tighten up access. pwmeek, doesn't gabapentin work for your neuropathy?
 

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My only experience with opioids was after kidney surgery (10" incision). They had me hooked to a morphine machine that would give me a small dose every time I pushed the button; however there was a seven minute delay before the button would work again. I was (back when I vaped 36 mg/ml) used to waking frequently to take a puff or three, so on the second night after surgery, I managed to partially wake every seven minutes to push the button without even thinking about it. I sprang awake at around 3 or 4 in the morning, hallucinating like mad and completely unable to go back to sleep. (I had completely emptied the morphine cartridge.) I spent the rest of the night pushing my IV pole up and down the halls. That was it; I completely quit all pain medicine, not even an aspirin; this was 38 hours after the surgery. It still hurt some, but frankly, not as much as my neuropathy (which doesn't respond to painkillers anyhow) hurts me 24/7; I just have to deal with it.

So, no opioids for me. I just don't like them. I can see where they would be useful for someone with chronic pain that responds to opioids, but not for me.
That is weird I had nearly the same experience with the morphine pump. I thought my bed was on the ceiling and I was looking down. It was terrible, I was doing the same thing as far as waking up and pushing the button. It was terrible. Now if I end up in the hospital I tell them I can't take Morphine and they use Demerol which is nearly the same, don't care for it either. I don't absorb oral meds like most people so I don't get the effect people do on them. I can take 2 and might give me the effect of 1 which is enough for me. The patches I was on did absorb like normal which is why I got off of them first, I knew they would be the hardest, now I'm working on the orals but it's a long road. If I ever get off of them in this lifetime I will avoid them if at all possible. I don't know if that is a realistic goal or not. I'm glad my doc went along with me weaning myself at what was comfortable to me. I think I amazed her

Right at the moment I'm just trying to get through tonight not from the meds but my lungs. I'm trying to transition to no nic no flavor and I am not feeling at all good tonight, can't wait for it to be over. I don't know what is wrong but whatever its not good tonight. Could be my heart with a BP around 130/20 leaking pretty good tonight, my O2 is good hopefully will feel better tomorrow. It just came on about 2 hours ago.
 

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It also makes me cranky sometimes.
I DO NOT GET CRANKY!!!
I was a corporate trainer when I had my accident. I was unable to be the jumpy jivie, happy trainer.

I guard my gabby tightly, now that addicts are discovering that with other substances it makes a cheap high. I hope the mail order system will still work if they try to tighten up access. pwmeek, doesn't gabapentin work for your neuropathy?
Every time I have an appointment with my Pain Management Doctor he asks if I keep my meds locked up. I have a small safe that I have bolted to the top of my big safe which is bolted to the corner walls. I keep one day's meds in small glass viles that at one time held flavors.
I also take gabapentin as one of my daily meds. It does a good job keeping the pain from radiating to my feet. Before I started taking it, it felt like I was walking on fire.
 

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I'm getting serious about getting my back fixed, and my teeth fixed again. I have an appointment for a full physical exam on Tuesday, and then an appointment on the 18th with a local dental implant specialist for CT scan and evaluation... I'm prepared to raid my savings for whatever will give me reliable upper choppers. After the physical, I'll start looking into surgical options for my back.

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That's great that you are getting all of that taken care of! Go for it! I had the Cardiologist appointment today. New Dr for me, but the same one my Mom seen so at least I'm familiar with him. EKG perfect, & the doppler on both carotid was clear. The blocked Subclavian artery stopped her short & I could tell when she found it because she camped in that spot & kept going over it. She finished & I asked her if she found the blocked artery & then if she saw the Subclavian Steal. She saw both, & said the Steal looks like a new artery, & she could see both of them at the same time. She said the contrast was fascinating to see. I didn't get to see it, but she showed me heart h the valves which was cool. I'll get the Dr's version tomorrow but he did say that that Steal would be ok for 50 years as long as I control cholesterol.
Now that is done I have clearance to do something about my back. Woohooooo!

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When I had complained to my rheumatologist about always feeling so tired and having no energy...was told it's because my body is in a constant 24/7 fight with RA...;)
That makes sense. I feel better when I take my vitamins. I just forget because I detest having to take so many pills. Then I remember when I start feeling so bad again.

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I had the Cardiologist appointment today. New Dr for me, but the same one my Mom seen so at least I'm familiar with him. EKG perfect, & the doppler on both carotid was clear. The blocked Subclavian artery stopped her short & I could tell when she found it because she camped in that spot & kept going over it. She finished & I asked her if she found the blocked artery & then if she saw the Subclavian Steal. She saw both, & said the Steal looks like a new artery, & she could see both of them at the same time. She said the contrast was fascinating to see. I didn't get to see it, but she showed me heart h the valves which was cool. I'll get the Dr's version tomorrow but he did say that that Steal would be ok for 50 years as long as I control cholesterol.
Now that is done I have clearance to do something about my back. Woohooooo!
Wonderful!
 

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I guard my gabby tightly, now that addicts are discovering that with other substances it makes a cheap high. I hope the mail order system will still work if they try to tighten up access. pwmeek, doesn't gabapentin work for your neuropathy?
Nope, gabapentin (and nortriptyline) make me depressed and suicidal, and are on the Do Not Administer list in my medical records.. That left me with Lyrica (pregabalin) which has some effect, but costs $400 a month. I've been taking it for most of a decade now. (It may go generic soon, which would be some financial relief.) Lyrica has the odd side effect of also relieving my chronic depression, which is welcome. Again, it is a Schedule V controlled substance, which means I have to jump through hoops to get my prescription filled.
 

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That is weird I had nearly the same experience with the morphine pump. I thought my bed was on the ceiling and I was looking down. It was terrible, I was doing the same thing as far as waking up and pushing the button. It was terrible. Now if I end up in the hospital I tell them I can't take Morphine and they use Demerol which is nearly the same, don't care for it either. I don't absorb oral meds like most people so I don't get the effect people do on them. I can take 2 and might give me the effect of 1 which is enough for me. The patches I was on did absorb like normal which is why I got off of them first, I knew they would be the hardest, now I'm working on the orals but it's a long road. If I ever get off of them in this lifetime I will avoid them if at all possible. I don't know if that is a realistic goal or not. I'm glad my doc went along with me weaning myself at what was comfortable to me. I think I amazed her

Right at the moment I'm just trying to get through tonight not from the meds but my lungs. I'm trying to transition to no nic no flavor and I am not feeling at all good tonight, can't wait for it to be over. I don't know what is wrong but whatever its not good tonight. Could be my heart with a BP around 130/20 leaking pretty good tonight, my O2 is good hopefully will feel better tomorrow. It just came on about 2 hours ago.
Have you investigated TENS? (Transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation). I had it recommended for my neuropathy, but it sounded like a lot of fooling around several times every day (which is not something I tend to be willing to do). There are a lot of circumstances where it shouldn't be used (pregnancy, pacemaker, etc) and a limited variety of conditions where it helps, but it is one more possibility.
 
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