Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch - Part Seven

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Have you investigated TENS? (Transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation). I had it recommended for my neuropathy, but it sounded like a lot of fooling around several times every day (which is not something I tend to be willing to do). There are a lot of circumstances where it shouldn't be used (pregnancy, pacemaker, etc) and a limited variety of conditions where it helps, but it is one more possibility.
On bad days, I wear it all the time, with the pads on the most painful spots. I just leave it on, and use it when needed. Don't use it too much, or it becomes less effective. It does help. I also have lidocaine rub. I also have some high-power cortisone ointment that I could use off-label occasionally.

Past few days have been sitting at my computer desk, researching genealogy-- pain-free, but at what cost? I see the podiatrist on Thursday, hopefully arch support on my left foot will help immensely, have one built in to ankle brace on right foot, and it is wonderful.
 

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For me it feels like my feet are being crushed in hot, sharp gravel. (Burn, pressure, and puncture sensations.)

I've definitely not had that type of pain, but I have been having a lot of different weird pain problems the last couple of years. After much experimentation and evaluation, I stopped my OTC stomach med, and started on a magnesium supplement (for the expected backlash of super heartburn). Within a week, I felt some relief (and very little heartburn), but it wasn't miraculous. A week after the magnesium, I started with MSM, I woke the next morning and felt a week's worth of relief from that. I am still on both (and continued with Turmeric and Krill Oil), and much improved (in flexibility AND pain). I still can't kneel like I was before 2 winters ago, but I can get through an 8 shift, of mostly walking, without feeling like I'm walking on rocks barefoot, and my Achilles doesn't feel like it wants to rip off the bone. I turned 55 in November, and was starting to worry that I wouldn't be able to make it to retirement age.
Disclaimer---- Some people shouldn't take magnesium or msm, so you need to investigate that, but thought I'd tell you about something that may help.
 

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my Achilles doesn't feel like it wants to rip off the bone.
That sounds somewhat like Plantar Fasciitis. There are exercises for that - mostly stretching it (and the other tendons that wrap around the heel) and keeping them from contracting. I fixed mine by a simple stretch when I first lie down in bed at night and again any time I wake during the night. I just straighten out my legs and "try" to touch my toes to my knees. (Of course, I can't even come close <grin> but flexing my ankles upwards as far as I can while curling my toes upwards as far as I can does it.) Hold for a slow ten count. (I distilled this exercise from six pages of stretches, supplied by my doctor, involving rolled towels, belts, walls, chairs and who knows what. Every one of the exercises boiled down to stretching that bundle of tendons in one way or another.) At any rate, I've never been bothered by it again. One thing: right after this stretch, DON'T extend your foot and curl the toes downwards; that's likely to cause a cramp in the arch which hurts like the dickens until you massage it out. Wait for a few minutes.

I've never tried the straps that hold the foot flexed upwards during sleep since the exercise described worked for me, so I didn't need to try the strap. (A friend likes them though.)
 

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Frozen burgers? Who cares? Square burgers on round rolls? Why? JMH opinions.
Dunno why square on round, but square burgers make a lot of sense for mass production (a la Wendy's™ or White Castle™). They can be cut from vast sheets (instead of being individually formed), they fill shipping boxes efficiently, and while grilling, they "tile the plane", covering the entire grill surface, allowing no heat to escape and be wasted. (And I confess to liking to bite off the exposed corners before attacking the main burger.)

(That said, wasn't the post something of a non sequitur? Or did I miss something?)
 
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That sounds somewhat like Plantar Fasciitis. There are exercises for that - mostly stretching it (and the other tendons that wrap around the heel) and keeping them from contracting. I fixed mine by a simple stretch when I first lie down in bed at night and again any time I wake during the night. I just straighten out my legs and "try" to touch my toes to my knees. (Of course, I can't even come close <grin> but flexing my ankles upwards as far as I can while curling my toes upwards as far as I can does it.) Hold for a slow ten count. (I distilled this exercise from six pages of stretches, supplied by my doctor, involving rolled towels, belts, walls, chairs and who knows what. Every one of the exercises boiled down to stretching that bundle of tendons in one way or another.) At any rate, I've never been bothered by it again. One thing: right after this stretch, DON'T extend your foot and curl the toes downwards; that's likely to cause a cramp in the arch which hurts like the dickens until you massage it out. Wait for a few minutes.

I've never tried the straps that hold the foot flexed upwards during sleep since the exercise described worked for me, so I didn't need to try the strap. (A friend likes them though.)

I had PF pretty bad in my right foot. A prominent limp that if it got worse I'd have opted for a cane or walking stick. I had tried gel insoles and that didn't help at all. My son said, no, no ... that's all wrong get some good inserts like Superfeet. You want a firm footing not a squishy footing. He used the teaching example ... at the beach is it easier to walk on the wet packed sand or the soft loose sand? Made his point ... after putting them in my primary shoes and also doing the stretching excursuses you mentioned relieved the pain. After a month or so, I've never been bothered by it again (knock on wood).

Another excursive is to stand on a step on the front/toes of your foot. Then gently lower and raise your heels to stretch it out. Note/Hint/Caution ... it helps to hold on the the stair rail when doing said stretching. (how I learned that is yet another story :blush:)
 

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Well more great news for us. Ginny had a test yesterday and she has a tumor on her thyroid. They said it was benign, don't know how they can tell that, she did have a nuclear test of some kind yesterday to check her arteries. So who knows.
Patrick, my mom had the identical condition the final 20 years or so of her life. Benign tumor on her thyroid. It never caused her any problems. She did take thyroxin for years. I hope Ginny has the same luck.
 

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For me it feels like my feet are being crushed in hot, sharp gravel. (Burn, pressure, and puncture sensations.)
I can't like that PW :( With all the modern medical marvels you'd think they could come up with something that works for you.
 

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Have you investigated TENS? (Transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation). I had it recommended for my neuropathy, but it sounded like a lot of fooling around several times every day (which is not something I tend to be willing to do). There are a lot of circumstances where it shouldn't be used (pregnancy, pacemaker, etc) and a limited variety of conditions where it helps, but it is one more possibility.

I love my TENS! I use it for my back, shoulder and knee and it helped all 3 problems. I'm sure there are things it won't work for, but I'd check with the doc and try it. Better than drugs.

I've definitely not had that type of pain, but I have been having a lot of different weird pain problems the last couple of years. After much experimentation and evaluation, I stopped my OTC stomach med, and started on a magnesium supplement (for the expected backlash of super heartburn). Within a week, I felt some relief (and very little heartburn), but it wasn't miraculous. A week after the magnesium, I started with MSM, I woke the next morning and felt a week's worth of relief from that. I am still on both (and continued with Turmeric and Krill Oil), and much improved (in flexibility AND pain). I still can't kneel like I was before 2 winters ago, but I can get through an 8 shift, of mostly walking, without feeling like I'm walking on rocks barefoot, and my Achilles doesn't feel like it wants to rip off the bone. I turned 55 in November, and was starting to worry that I wouldn't be able to make it to retirement age.
Disclaimer---- Some people shouldn't take magnesium or msm, so you need to investigate that, but thought I'd tell you about something that may help.

What's MSM?
 

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What's MSM?

methylsulfonylmethane .... A sulfur supplement. It's included in a lot of Glucosamine Chondroitin supplements, but I've not had good results with those in the past, so went with plain msm this time. It "supports healthy cartilage, tendons, ligaments and skin".
 

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I had PF pretty bad in my right foot. A prominent limp that if it got worse I'd have opted for a cane or walking stick. I had tried gel insoles and that didn't help at all. My son said, no, no ... that's all wrong get some good inserts like Superfeet. You want a firm footing not a squishy footing. He used the teaching example ... at the beach is it easier to walk on the wet packed sand or the soft loose sand? Made his point ... after putting them in my primary shoes and also doing the stretching excursuses you mentioned relieved the pain. After a month or so, I've never been bothered by it again (knock on wood).

Another excursive is to stand on a step on the front/toes of your foot. Then gently lower and raise your heels to stretch it out. Note/Hint/Caution ... it helps to hold on the the stair rail when doing said stretching. (how I learned that is yet another story :blush:)
Firm insoles - you've got that right! I went to a local running shop where the salesman had me walk across in front of him, then to and away in my regular shoes (Mephisto™). Then he replaced the existing insoles with one set of insoles after another while having me walk back and forth, to and fro. Of course, the choices were from among what they sold, but there sure were a lot of them. He was checking the ankle action and the angle as I walked, for pronation/supination and the like. The whole process took almost two hours. I ended up getting Powerstep™ Pinnacles and a recommendation to replace them every six months. (They get beat down by use.) I don't walk all that much compared to their regular customers (serious runners that train a lot), plus i got separate pairs for both pairs of identical shoes (which I rotate daily) so I've been replacing them more like every 18 months.

For the tendon stretches, I got a set of hard rubber wheel chocks of the right height and shape which I keep with my exercise equipment (treadmill, cable-and-weight combo strength trainer, hand weights, etc.). I've been pretty good about getting cardio time three days a week on the treadmill, but my strength training has fallen by the wayside for a couple years. I really need to get back to it. And yeah, I do need something to hang on to for those tendon stretches. I would never dare to try them on stairs, even with a bannister. I use my engine hoist (which, for some reason, resides in the same part of the basement as my exercise equipment).
 

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I use my engine hoist (which, for some reason, resides in the same part of the basement as my exercise equipment).
LOL Yes, an engine hoist would do it-- expensively, but yes. Some big old books on the floor and a tall cabinet work for me.
 

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Good morning! Looks like I have some catching up to do since I was offline for a few days. Computer time has been limited since.

@oldbroad you have an old PM waiting for you!

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Dunno why square on round, but square burgers make a lot of sense for mass production (a la Wendy's™ or White Castle™). They can be cut from vast sheets (instead of being individually formed), they fill shipping boxes efficiently, and while grilling, they "tile the plane", covering the entire grill surface, allowing no heat to escape and be wasted. (And I confess to liking to bite off the exposed corners before attacking the main burger.)

(That said, wasn't the post something of a non sequitur? Or did I miss something?)
Non sequitur is in my skill set. The immediate source was a Wendy's ad on TV that had their usual boasting about using never-frozen burgers. I never thought about the shape efficiency factor of square burgers... I am now smarter than I was.
 
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