Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch - Part Seven

[DavidOck]

Would ya trade fer a near new recliner! $hippin' would be a biatch... never mind... View attachment 727573

Oh you guys…not funny although I must say that, if Ellie was allowed outside, she would be the typical cat that brings you all these animals she has hunted and killed.

Of course, it's the natural order. That natural predators don't eat prey in the family may also be, since it helps ensure a steady diet, roof a over one's whiskers, and the ability to grab a bite now and then without having to go hunt it down.

We've had lots of odd variations of critters over the years, just 2 cats now.

 

[clnire]

Omg he's beautiful! I have a rescue GSD mix - just today he was sedated and tested for possible autoimmune whatever because I cannot tell you how much $$$ I've spent on random issues over the past few years but this past 6 weeks had been really bad. I'm broke and selling stuff just to pay for that procedure [emoji22][emoji22]

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Thank you for the compliment (everyone else too).

I am so sorry you and your pup are going through this. Bea is very wise, hopefully it can be controlled but if he won't have quality of life, well, just something to think about. I don't mean to sound cold and heartless, far from that, just the truth.

I wish you and your dear dog all the best and send strength and healing light.

 

[bigbells]

I wouldn't have chosen ancestry (and realize y'all didn't either) but like y'all, my nephew started buying kits from them for some family members. He has a kit over there for me to spit in whenever I can get over there to do it.

Yeah, clearly not ideal, but the price was right.

DH and I want to check our backgrounds. We know he has Swiss, German, Cherokee and English. I'm supposed to be half Greek and half French but my Greek from my father's side comes from a Greek colony in Turkey a few generations ago and I'm curious what a search will find.

So which one should we go with?

It's more than complicated to compare the tests available from different companies, but autosomnal tests are the least expensive and that's the test that most people get, for starters anyway. I'm tempted to recommend the Family Finder test at FamilytreeDNA.com, which is $79.

Family Tree dna allows free transfer of some autosomnal tests to the Family Tree database. Ancestry is one of the outfits from which Family Tree accepts transfer.
https://www.familytreedna.com/learn...mily-tree-dna-family-finder-transfer-program/

Oh you guys…not funny although I must say that, if Ellie was allowed outside, she would be the typical cat that brings you all these animals she has hunted and killed.

Is the white one Peaty or Ellie?

 

[Bea-FL]

Hubs has a large tumor and I know 2 chemo sessions didn't shrink it so I have no idea why he's been pain free the last 2 days and no nausea either.The last session was a short 2 hour one and I went with him so I know the actual chemo drip was only a half hour. The long session he had last week was 6 1/5 hours and I know the chemo drip had to be much longer for that one plus it's 2 different chemo drugs.

The "liquid" stuff that hubs tried last week had no effect so didn't have anything to do with him feeling better.

Whatever the reason I'm so glad he feels better right now

Thank you for the compliment (everyone else too).

I am so sorry you and your pup are going through this. Bea is very wise, hopefully it can be controlled but if he won't have quality of life, well, just something to think about. I don't mean to sound cold and heartless, far from that, just the truth.

I wish you and your dear dog all the best and send strength and healing light.

I so hope I didn't sound cold and heartless…I kept worrying about that. I very much hope that pup gets better.

It's more than complicated to compare the tests available from different companies, but autosomnal tests are the least expensive and that's the test that most people get, for starters anyway. I'm tempted to recommend the Family Finder test at FamilytreeDNA.com, which is $79.

Family Tree DNA allows free transfer of some autosomnal tests to the Family Tree database. Ancestry is one of the outfits from which Family Tree accepts transfer.
https://www.familytreedna.com/learn...mily-tree-dna-family-finder-transfer-program/

Is the white one Peaty or Ellie?

Ellie is the white one.

 

[clnire]

I so hope I didn't sound cold and heartless…I kept worrying about that. I very much hope that pup gets better.

I do too. It's a tough situation for all.

 

[Flowersoul]

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Busy day ahead and don't feel like moving but time is a'wastin......
DH is having his lazer eye surgery tomorrow and we're excited about that...almost a year ago, I had cataract surgery, so he rather knows what to expect.......all good!!

 

[LyLyV]

I do too. It's a tough situation for all.

Literally everything has gone through my mind. If this is going to be something that is going to cost me a HUGE amount of $$ ... I just don't know what I would do. I suppose a GoFund me would be an option, but outside of that - I just don't know. :/

 

[Bea-FL]

Literally everything has gone through my mind. If this is going to be something that is going to cost me a HUGE amount of $$ ... I just don't know what I would do. I suppose a GoFund me would be an option, but outside of that - I just don't know. :/

Check with your vet and your local shelters to see if they have any programs to help people with unexpected vet bills such as yours. In my state up north there was a non-profit group that would give out money to people who were in your shoes. I believe they wanted some sort of proof from the pet owner of inability to pay the bill.

 

[Iffy]

I have a rescue GSD mix - just today he was sedated and tested for possible autoimmune whatever because I cannot tell you how much $$$ I've spent on random issues over the past few years but this past 6 weeks had been really bad. I'm broke and selling stuff just to pay for that procedure

Literally everything has gone through my mind. If this is going to be something that is going to cost me a HUGE amount of $$ ... I just don't know what I would do... I just don't know. :/

My major factor when confronted with your situation is determining/considering the quality of life and possible future improvements; whether it be a family member or fav pet.

Thankfully, re my parents, they had expressed their wishes. That's the easy situation. Our pets can only let us know how they 'feel' by their change in behavior (two way communication critical). But if there is a chance of recovery, go for it.

Taco, my first dog, got ill while I was deployed on TDY (temporary duty yonder), was determined to have liver cancer. Thanks to my bride and a hellva vet, Taco recovered with 1/3rd of her liver; and gave us continued joy for four more years!

My brother had an awesome pound rescue dog. Trooper 'sampled' some leaked anti-freeze and suffered the slow and extended terminal consequences. To this day, my brother still regrets that he let Trooper suffer so long...

Not sure if my post will help you. But be assured that most of us here have had a similar dilemma!!! My heart breaks and my hopes go out to you...

 

[LyLyV]

My major factor when confronted with your situation is determining/considering the quality of life and possible future improvements; whether it be a family member or fav pet.

Thankfully, re my parents, they had expressed their wishes. That's the easy situation. Our pets can only let us know how they 'feel' by their change in behavior (two way communication critical). But if there is a chance of recovery, go for it.

Taco, my first dog, got ill while I was deployed on TDY (temporary duty yonder), was determined to have liver cancer. Thanks to my bride and a hellva vet, Taco recovered with 1/3rd of her liver; and gave us continued joy for four more years!

My brother had an awesome pound rescue dog. Trooper 'sampled' some leaked anti-freeze and suffered the slow and extended terminal consequences. To this day, my brother still regrets that he let Trooper suffer so long...

Not sure if my post will help you. But be assured that most of us here have had a similar dilemma!!! My heart breaks and my hopes go out to you...

Well - I am hoping that the tests show something, so that I know what we're dealing with. I cannot keep having him get sick all the time. This last time he was on antibiotics for a month. Seemed great. 10 days later he was fully sick again. He's had skin allergies/fungal infections, ear infections, mange off, etc off on for 3 yrs. I have tried every quality food imaginable. Currently considering a raw/cooked "people food" diet. Personally, I haven't eaten animals in 27 yrs, but I'll cook it for him if I have to. Anyway - he's on the meds for now. Anxiously awaiting lab results.

PS. My first dog's name was also Taco! <3

 

[Bea-FL]

Well - I am hoping that the tests show something, so that I know what we're dealing with. I cannot keep having him get sick all the time. This last time he was on antibiotics for a month. Seemed great. 10 days later he was fully sick again. He's had skin allergies/fungal infections, ear infections, mange off, etc off on for 3 yrs. I have tried every quality food imaginable. Currently considering a raw/cooked "people food" diet. Personally, I haven't eaten animals in 27 yrs, but I'll cook it for him if I have to. Anyway - he's on the meds for now. Anxiously awaiting lab results.

PS. My first dog's name was also Taco! <3

You sound like a great mom . ((((Hug)))

 

[clnire]

You sound like a great mom . ((((Hug)))

I agree wholeheartedly!

 

[Bea-FL]

My major factor when confronted with your situation is determining/considering the quality of life and possible future improvements; whether it be a family member or fav pet.
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Iffy very well put. That is exactly what we told clients faced with such hard issues. If the pet might experience some, but not really bad, discomfort while treating the disease and afterwards it would have a good life, we encouraged the client to treat.

Of course there are exceptions. Years ago one of our cats, Fiona, was diagnosed with intestinal cancer. It is treated with chemo and IF the patient goes into remission, their life expectancy is a 1-2 years…with quality of life. Remission was achieved in less than 50%. If they don't go into remission life expectancy is a few months. Cats take chemo really well, nothing like humans. So we considered it until the specialist told us this form of chemo is by injection, not pills, and no, even though I worked in the business, he would not give me the injections to administer myself.

Fiona was a very timid cat who traveled very badly. Open-mouth breathing, wailing, vomit…the works. At her age, she was 17, she had already lived a wonderful, happy life and we simply could not put her through a 45 minute trip twice a week for several weeks with the odds given to us. As it turned out it was the right decision. About a week later she died in her sleep. The specialist told us that meant the cancer was even more advanced than he thought and chemo wouldn't have worked.

On the other hand I remember one of our patients, a boxer whose name escapes me, who was diagnosed with cancer when he was only two. Went through the chemo with ease (dogs also don't have the difficulty humans have with chemo), went into remission and stayed there until he died years later of old age .

Quality of life…that's where it's at.

 

[Debadoo]

But, please know, that if it comes to that, it will not be a bad decision nor will making it makes you a bad mom. There are worse fates than death.

Very glad you posted this. It's wonderful affirmation if it comes to that, which of course, we all hope and/or pray it doesn't.

DH is having his lazer eye surgery tomorrow and we're excited about that

wahooooo hope it works wonderfully for him! My nephew had the prk done in Canada when he was in the Navy, and it worked so great for many years. He was really young, so now he's having some issue. He did get a ticket cuz he forgot to have his dl changed

Literally everything has gone through my mind. If this is going to be something that is going to cost me a HUGE amount of $$ ... I just don't know what I would do. I suppose a GoFund me would be an option, but outside of that - I just don't know. :/

(((((((((((lyly))))))))))) such a hard thing to go through. We're here for you hun. You may have said, but what's your dog's name? and I agree, you sound like a wonderful mama to your furry baby.

My major factor when confronted with your situation is determining/considering the quality of life and possible future improvements; whether it be a family member or fav pet.

Thankfully, re my parents, they had expressed their wishes. That's the easy situation. Our pets can only let us know how they 'feel' by their change in behavior (two way communication critical). But if there is a chance of recovery, go for it.

Taco, my first dog, got ill while I was deployed on TDY (temporary duty yonder), was determined to have liver cancer. Thanks to my bride and a hellva vet, Taco recovered with 1/3rd of her liver; and gave us continued joy for four more years!

My brother had an awesome pound rescue dog. Trooper 'sampled' some leaked anti-freeze and suffered the slow and extended terminal consequences. To this day, my brother still regrets that he let Trooper suffer so long...

Not sure if my post will help you. But be assured that most of us here have had a similar dilemma!!! My heart breaks and my hopes go out to you...

wonderful post!

On the other hand I remember one of our patients, a boxer whose name escapes me, who was diagnosed with cancer when he was only two. Went through the chemo with ease (dogs also don't have the difficulty humans have with chemo), went into remission and stayed there until he died years later of old age .

glad yours died in her sleep so you didn't have to put her down. Very glad you posted this, I had no idea that dogs and cats handled chemo so well.

 

[Diver9543]

Literally everything has gone through my mind. If this is going to be something that is going to cost me a HUGE amount of $$ ... I just don't know what I would do. I suppose a GoFund me would be an option, but outside of that - I just don't know. :/

You also might want to check and see if your local university has a veterinary program. Here in Oklahoma, we have a really good program at Oklahoma State University. They will sometimes help folks.

 

[Debadoo]

You also might want to check and see if your local university has a veterinary program. Here in Oklahoma, we have a really good program at Oklahoma State University. They will sometimes help folks.

excellent suggestion

 

[yiddleboge6]

You also might want to check and see if your local university has a veterinary program. Here in Oklahoma, we have a really good program at Oklahoma State University. They will sometimes help folks.

In CA....the place to go would be UC Davis for the best in veterinary programs.... I would contact them to see what they may offer...

 

[Bea-FL]

These two are such good buds. They're always together

 

[Bea-FL]

In CA....the place to go would be UC Davis for the best in veterinary programs.... I would contact them to see what they may offer...

Exactly! @LyLyV I don't know in what state you live but if you're in the midwest, Ohio State University is known for the best veterinary school in the eastern half of the states, comparable to UC Davis in the west.

 

[yiddleboge6]

Exactly! @LyLyV I don't know in what state you live but if you're in the midwest, Ohio State University is known for the best veterinary school in the eastern half of the states, comparable to UC Davis in the west.

There was a time I dreamed of going back to school to become a vet....UC Davis is where I wanted to go...