Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Four

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Hey Y'all. I have been terrible remiss in welcoming new members to the porch. Sorry about that.......I don't get on this side much because the more technical aspects of vaping give me a headache. ;)

I did want to tell y'all that I took my first leap into DIY yesterday. Now, PLEASE don't ask me what I made because I can't tell you. I just know I put some strawberry in there, some carmel, and some vanilla. I used ejuice me up so I could have 30mg of nicotine. Yeah, I'm a hard case. Now, I can't tell you what it tastes like because I haven't tasted it yet. I just put it to sleep...........I mean....steep. :D

I know I made a mess. I know I have to rethink some things, and I know I need more flavors. (Heavy sigh) I don't want to get technical. I just want to vape as inexpensively as possible. I still have a rag in the kitchen that smells delightfully strawberry. :p
If you like berry flavor I recently picked up a small bottle of Forest Berry from Flavor Art that at 5% makes an absolutely lovely vape. Might even be able to go down to 3% but I would test at 5 and adjust from there.
 

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If you like berry flavor I recently picked up a small bottle of Forest Berry from Flavor Art that at 5% makes an absolutely lovely vape. Might even be able to go down to 3% but I would test at 5 and adjust from there.

Hey, I'll check that out. Thanks for the suggestion. I'm truly glad to see you back. Hope all is well up there!!
 

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Au contraire mon ami, many 'toss away' models can be re-batted using care and some soldering ability. It's da circuit boards I won't mess with <poof>.
I am unable to solder. I soldered when I was doing stained glass work, but I am unable to do that anymore. Wish I could, but I could really wind up burned. My hands are a bit off!!! Just like my brain!!! :)
 

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Au contraire mon ami, many 'toss away' models can be re-batted using care and some soldering ability. It's da circuit boards I won't mess with <poof>.
Very true Iffy, I was trying to keep it very simple and basic for a new user to understand. Anything can be repaired IF the person has the skills.
 

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I am going to order one! This is great! It explains what other people may have just taken for granted that everyone should know! Well, I guess they haven't met me (or even imagined me)!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol: The actual company name is SMY? I'll order the one you have -- the SMY 60 Watt Temp Control! This is so helpful! Thanks again! So, SMY is an actual store that I can find here the same way I found Vape4life? I'll find them! This should be very, very good for me. I actually quit for two years using those horrible little batteries that had to be charged every hour! That is how badly I wanted to quit so that I could get off oxygen and improve my cardiac health. I have three stents and one artery that can't be stented and my cardiologist has been worried I might need a bypass in the future, I have been very ill. I laugh all the time, but in all seriousness, living with multiple genetic and neurological disorders is a daily challenge and I use humor to get through the day!!! I dare not vape nicotine because my BP is sky-high. I'm lucky I am here after so much heart damage, but even a heart attack could not take the best part of my human heart. :cry:

I am going to kick in here with something. The SMY I am sure is a perfectly decent device. I do not use one so I am no one to judge. 60 Watts and Temp control might be a bit much to jump in with. One thing I would check on the device is if it HAS to run in Temp control mode. Because if it does you need to do your homework on temp control devices etc. I personally know buttkiss on temp control and wouldn't even know where to send you for sustainable temp controlled toppers (which are not the same as regular ones) and which if any are easily rebuildable.

There are many many many devices out there with user replaceable batteries in a wide price range. Do some homework and figure out what might work for you.

I personally for long term devices run REO Grands (mechanical) + RM2s on top. And in the regulated device have one Provari and am about to order a 2nd one. Both devices have a long track record for durability and quality. They are however NOT cheap. Just two more things for you to research. Long run mechanicals will be more sustainable as they have no wiring/ digital stuff to give up the ghost. Mechanicals do require a bit more knowledge and caution on the part of the user as they do not have the regulation circuitry to avoid shorts.

I am sure others in this thread can kick in with other things for you to research.

For toppers I have multiple Rebuildable drippers, Protanks, and protank 2s. I rebuild the heads for the protanks and protank 2s. So my coil heads last for years. LOL

I will be ordering a Kanger Subtank mini tomorrow which NOW you can buy replacement coils for but comes with a different part that lets you treat it as a rebuildable. If I like it I will be buying several more as it will be relatively sustainable.

I am sure others can kick in with topper ideas as well.
 

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Very true Iffy, I was trying to keep it very simple and basic for a new user to understand. Anything can be repaired IF the person has the skills.
And sometimes the very expensive equipment required.
And if you can get the parts.
 

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I personally for long term devices run REO Grands (mechanical) + RM2s on top. And in the regulated device have one Provari and am about to order a 2nd one. Both devices have a long track record for durability and quality. They are however NOT cheap. Just two more things for you to research. Long run mechanicals will be more sustainable as they have no wiring/ digital stuff to give up the ghost. Mechanicals do require a bit more knowledge and caution on the part of the user as they do not have the regulation circuitry to avoid shorts.
completely agree with this. I've never used a provari, but many many folks here have, and they do seem to be incredibly reliable, and the company that makes them, provape, has been around for a long time, and just moved their headquarters to another state to avoid anti vaping legislation, so they're bound to be around for a very long time to come.
For mechanicals, I know many vape mechanical tube mods, but personally they scare me a bit. I am not a battery genius but know enough for what I'm using and how I'm using it. For me personally for a mechanical, I wouldn't have any of them other than a Reo. He does have a budget reo now for around 130-ish. Same impeccable quality, just no fancy paint or stuff like that. You can also sometimes find good deals on the classifieds here on ECF, if you decide to get verified.

BUT......for now I would focus on getting a very reliable VV or VW mod, with replaceable batteries. A couple less expensive ones that spring to mind that I've heard much good about are the Innokin MVP 3 or MVP 3 Pro, (it's pretty big though) and the IPV mini. I heard a lot of good about the first one, they now have newer versions, and haven't heard much about them. I was getting ready to get an IPV mini when all the regulation stuff started heating up and I decided to go with Reos. If you list some things that are important to you, we can help you narrow your search, and if I can find it, there is a great thread with a lot of great info.......
Found it Little itty bitty mods under $100.
this thread got huge, but the first several pages has great info and you can skim some of that
 

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I know I have posted this in other iterations of this thread but I thought I would post it again as we have some new people who may not know about the impending FDA deeming regulations of doom. In short if the proposed regulations go into place as is, any vaping device post 2007 is gone. Eliquid manufacturers are gone. WHat would be required to get liquids and devices approved through the new process would be nearly impossible for most makers of eliquid and devices to manage (the estimate I heard was 3.3 million dollars for ever single flavor and small bit of gear).

That mean Vapocalypse prepping is a very real thing. Here is my personal take on the prepping so take with as main salt grains as you like.

1. Learn to DIY eliquid. This includes safety in doing so. Which flavors are safe. Nic handling etc.

2. Learn to rebuild atomizers. How do I make a safe coil? How do I attach it safely? Will this coil work with this battery device? etc.

3. start laying in the requisite supplies to achieve 1 & 2 for the foreseeable future.
- get quality sustainable devices the most sustainable are mechanical devices but those require more knowledge. This means user replaceable batteries as well.
- get rebuildable tanks and drippers and learn to rebuild them
- lay in a supply of nicotine if you use it as this will be the choke point. PG/VG and food flavorings they can't put out of business without killing candy making and baking

Al lof those things require homework on your part and learning things that look scary on the surface but once you get the hang of are really not all that difficult. There are many here in this thread or on ECF in general willing and able to lend a hand in the learning process.
 
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completely agree with this. I've never used a provari, but many many folks here have, and they do seem to be incredibly reliable, and the company that makes them, provape, has been around for a long time, and just moved their headquarters to another state to avoid anti vaping legislation, so they're bound to be around for a very long time to come.
For mechanicals, I know many vape mechanical tube mods, but personally they scare me a bit. I am not a battery genius but know enough for what I'm using and how I'm using it. For me personally for a mechanical, I wouldn't have any of them other than a Reo. He does have a budget reo now for around 130-ish. Same impeccable quality, just no fancy paint or stuff like that. You can also sometimes find good deals on the classifieds here on ECF, if you decide to get verified.

BUT......for now I would focus on getting a very reliable VV or VW mod, with replaceable batteries. A couple less expensive ones that spring to mind that I've heard much good about are the Innokin MVP 3 or MVP 3 Pro, (it's pretty big though) and the IPV mini. I heard a lot of good about the first one, they now have newer versions, and haven't heard much about them. I was getting ready to get an IPV mini when all the regulation stuff started heating up and I decided to go with Reos. If you list some things that are important to you, we can help you narrow your search, and if I can find it, there is a great thread with a lot of great info.......
Found it Little itty bitty mods under $100.
this thread got huge, but the first several pages has great info and you can skim some of that
Do the MVPs have replaceable batteries now? They didn't used to.
 

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for those looking nto building coil and learning about mechs and battery safety etc. ECFs own Super_X_Drifter has this video which I think is a nice intro to it all. He is good at making stuff relatively simple.

Just came across it so I thought I would list it.
 

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Maybe a quick scan of the first 3 stickies here: New Members Information by Rolygate will help with the current state of names :facepalm:

Then some decisions. If you decide to go replaceable battery, what's more comfortable for you to hold, a tube or a box?

If you decide to go rebuildable, there are types that can also use factory heads, like the Kanger Subtank. So you could use premades while exploring building coils. (And many of the premades can also be rebuilt by the user.... many of us do that as well, to cut costs.) And for FDA-proofing, being able to rebuild your topper is vital!

Getting a mechanical (or 2) in the vapacalypse box is good insurance - I have 3 - but my usual vape is regulated. I like to be able to change the quality of the vape as needed and on the fly. Can't do that with a mech, but with a mech, it's just a container for the battery, a fitting for the topper and a switch. Not much to go wrong. Ever.
Hi, David: I can't believe I missed your post or replied to the wrong person. I keep seeing the boxes and they remind me of a Zippo with a weird attachment. Their clouds also remind me of the "shotgun" scene from Outside Providence by the Farrelly Brothers! I like the tube best. Have a good night! :)
 

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Thanks for the advice, but may I ask you a question? What do you mean about replaceable batteries? I just have five batteries that I recharge. I am not sure I follow, which makes me wonder how I ever got to where I am! Are there batteries that I would just go out and buy? Ohhh, my head!!!
This makes sense to even me!!! It should to my husband, too! I think I am coming around a bit more now. Now all I have to do is find out what type of case/mod or PV to purchase? They just slip inside after your old battery has died after a few years? This makes sense. Thanks!!!
Replaceable batteries, like a flashlight. Buy a few. That way you can just slip another in to use while you charge the drained one. Just keep them rotating.

Just make sure you get the right batteries for the particular device. I buy most of mine from RTDvapor.com.
New CDC Data Suggest E-Cigarettes Are Helping Smokers Quit
The same survey finds that never-smokers rarely become regular vapers.
Nice! Thanks!
Why is it I always come back to ECF in time for a FDA crises that sets off my panic attacks? I am cursed!

Well given some reading I have been doing all day today I think my plans on what to buy today has changed slightly. With the FDA from hades impending even closer I decided to go for quality. I will be getting a 2nd provari(known durability) + a Kanger subtank mini ordered tomorrow. Then if I like that tank I will be picking 3-4 more. I have a good supply of mechs and rdas so I am not so worried about that. Also planning on another liter of nic for the freezer. At that point I am set I think.

If things go down the way folks think it will. I wont be vaping in public (or driving) anyway. The real important thing to me is being able to continue vaping.

This is scary stuff folks. BTW Dimitri is going to be talking about all this stuff(the FDA) with Bill Godshall tonight on VPLive.
Missed the show. Oh, well. I miss everything. How was it?

A potential vapocalypse has given me an excuse to stock up (which I have a natural tendency to want to do anyway). But, it's also kept me from playing around as much. I've also tended to put off buying things like batteries because they'll always be available (so no rush).

In the meantime, I'm really low on batteries! Especially 18500s. I could really use a Black Friday sale at RTD Vapor.
 

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Missed the show. Oh, well. I miss everything. How was it?

A potential vapocalypse has given me an excuse to stock up (which I have a natural tendency to want to do anyway). But, it's also kept me from playing around as much. I've also tended to put off buying things like batteries because they'll always be available (so no rush).

In the meantime, I'm really low on batteries! Especially 18500s. I could really use a Black Friday sale at RTD Vapor.
Scary as all discussions of the FDA of doom are. I am sure by tomorrow it will be archived on that site so if you want to watch it you can. Usually in podcasts is where it gets archived.
 

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I am going to kick in here with something. The SMY I am sure is a perfectly decent device. I do not use one so I am no one to judge. 60 Watts and Temp control might be a bit much to jump in with. One thing I would check on the device is if it HAS to run in Temp control mode. Because if it does you need to do your homework on temp control devices etc. I personally know buttkiss on temp control and wouldn't even know where to send you for sustainable temp controlled toppers (which are not the same as regular ones) and which if any are easily rebuildable.

There are many many many devices out there with user replaceable batteries in a wide price range. Do some homework and figure out what might work for you.

I personally for long term devices run REO Grands (mechanical) + RM2s on top. And in the regulated device have one Provari and am about to order a 2nd one. Both devices have a long track record for durability and quality. They are however NOT cheap. Just two more things for you to research. Long run mechanicals will be more sustainable as they have no wiring/ digital stuff to give up the ghost. Mechanicals do require a bit more knowledge and caution on the part of the user as they do not have the regulation circuitry to avoid shorts.

I am sure others in this thread can kick in with other things for you to research.

For toppers I have multiple Rebuildable drippers, Protanks, and protank 2s. I rebuild the heads for the protanks and protank 2s. So my coil heads last for years. LOL

I will be ordering a Kanger Subtank mini tomorrow which NOW you can buy replacement coils for but comes with a different part that lets you treat it as a rebuildable. If I like it I will be buying several more as it will be relatively sustainable.

I am sure others can kick in with topper ideas as well.
Thank you for chiming in. I was trying to figure out how to say what you just did. I agree with all you have said. A standard VV/VW mod would probably be much better at this point. I have a couple IPV Mini II and they are great systems. I would never recommend a TC device for a new person getting into vaping.
@Vape Suzette look into some of the devices that are VV/VW before you try to venture into the TC field. Talk to some of the other folks here that are much more knowledgeable than I am. As was mentioned the IPV mini II is a great system and very user friendly. A topper that I use on mine is the Kanger Subtank. I like it because you can use premade coils and it also includes a rebuildable base for when you feel like venturing into making your own coils. I apologize for any miscommunication that made you think I was recommending the SMY Temp Control unit for you to use. Later when you have more experience and are comfortable you can move into Temp Control at your leisure. No need to rush into anything until you are ready. Or getting a mod that offers something that you might never use.
Again, thank you @Myrany for coming in when you did and offering your advice.
 

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Man, this thread moves at warp speed good lord. Us older ferts are a chatty lil bunch aren't we. Anyway, this is my first Ti setup. Unkamen Ti wire, 26g
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13/12 wrap, 2mmID mounted high on my Aromamizer.
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Mounted on my ipv4s in TC mode.
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Who says older folk can't vape like the kids[emoji12] Tremendous vapor and flavor. The Ti wire really is fantastic. Richer vape than kanthal and in TC mode never a worry about a dry hit. The mod will not fire if the wick gets dry. Really amazing.
 

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@MattB101 won a Halloween Disruptor in the Innokin contest! Congratulations Matt!
Matt, congratulations! :)
Hi, Mike: My husband and I had to go online just to find the specs because my batteries are so much older now that we lost the original receipts. I have had these batteries for about two and a half years. From what we were able to match up here, I have:

EVOD 1000 mAh battery
MT3 EVOD Style Cartomizer
2.2-ohm coil
(Of course, my gear is old enough it may no longer be available. Please feel free to correct me if the above is an invalid combination of Frankenstein parts. All were bought at a reputable KangerTech dealer.)

I now have to find the same stuff from an online shop. I doubt I will ever find them again for 15-17 dollars per battery or if the shop I went into has survived the times. I buy my 0 mg nicotine juice at vape4life and wait for sales. They mark down the 0 mg juice in 30 ml bottles down to five dollars a bottle and I often really stock up. I do not think for a minute that everyone would be happy with what I am using because it is definitely not a cloud chaser unit, but a tootle puffer type. I do get some nice clouds when I slowly inhale and especially after it's warmed up. The coils were expensive. A box of five coils was 10.00, which I thought was highway robbery because it said on the inside instructions that one coil would only last about two to three weeks, but mine are lasting months at a time. It might be an aberration from the earlier days, but I like this setup and hope to really stock up on enough to last a lifetime -- if I live that long!!! :)
I was perfectly happy with my egos, then tried a Spinner. I still like Spinners but bought a Provari due to the FDA scares. Loved it, got three more. I prefer round to box, small hands.

Understanding what kind of vaper you are is a good first step. Bravo!

Do you use the PT coils? I get them now for a little over over $3 a box from Fasttech. Knowing where to buy can save you a bundle. PT coils, along with others, can be rebuilt so don't toss them when you change them out. There will also be a ton of sales coming up for the various holidays.
My husband would build a spaceship for me if I asked him to!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But he would make sure it would crash or run out of fuel. Anything to keep me happy!!!

Do you really think I could learn to do this high-tech stuff ... myself? Alone?? Unsupervised??? I am stuck in the era of "If it's not broke, don't fix it." I'd love to learn new tricks, but it is rather intimidating. It took me several years to ride a bike.

But the answer is, absolutely he would.
Some of the most knowledgable people on ECF are older women. :lol: No frass!
I got vape mail earlier today. An SMY 60W Mini TC Mod. So far I am really liking it. I got a black one and have it paired with a black Herakles. I love the size just wish the battery lasted a bit longer. Oh well, I have plenty of batteries so will just have to carry a couple extra in my shoulder bag when I go out.
SMY 60W Mini TC Mod
As a retired military cop and retired corrections officer, I get a wonderful discount. They were having a Holloween sale and I got it for almost half off. I can't recommend them enough. Free shipping in the US and really fast friendly service. I am not associated with them other than being a very satisfied customer.
Glad you're loving it! It's just awesome to see someone fall in love. :wub:
OMG that's beautiful!
Welcome to the porch vaporgrl! :) Yeah, I'd give an arm and a leg for that place. The dog would love the slide and I'd have to throw a lot fewer frisbees for him to get his exercise.
All the gear you listed earlier is still around, but I'd suggest you move to at least a variable voltage battery. Lets you adjust for different value coils and for different flavors.

But to really plan for the long term, you need to start thinking along the lines of rebuildable toppers and replaceable battery devices. The materials needed then are all common use items, plus a stash of high % nic. Most of us get in at 100 mg, and of course dilute to use. That's the only thing that may become hard to come buy - unless you're using hardware that will become useless when the battery soldered inside finally dies, or the last non-rebuildable topper finally cracks.
This! :)
 

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The avatar sometimes reminds me of a beagle/vulture sitting on a cloud from the odorous emission from an .... orifice! :lol:
Nailed it.
Diver, thank you so much. It's been a horrible day. Comcast has been ripping our building apart now for over two weeks and they gave us no warning that we would have no internet until late afternoon. My husband has a client in New England who needed legal advice and there was no way to reach this guy. We were worried he would leap off a building.
We've had the third internet crash on three days courtesy of Comcast. They're the feed for our provider. Comcast rocks. :nah:
Why is it I always come back to ECF in time for a FDA crises that sets off my panic attacks? I am cursed!

Well given some reading I have been doing all day today I think my plans on what to buy today has changed slightly. With the FDA from hades impending even closer I decided to go for quality. I will be getting a 2nd provari(known durability) + a Kanger subtank mini ordered tomorrow. Then if I like that tank I will be picking 3-4 more. I have a good supply of mechs and rdas so I am not so worried about that. Also planning on another liter of nic for the freezer. At that point I am set I think.

If things go down the way folks think it will. I wont be vaping in public (or driving) anyway. The real important thing to me is being able to continue vaping.

This is scary stuff folks. BTW Dimitri is going to be talking about all this stuff(the FDA) with Bill Godshall tonight on VPLive.
It may actually be a blessing. At least you are aware of what is going on right now. It looks pretty grim. I haven't seen it this bad since I joined ECF. If you don't mind, would you be willing to sign the petition? Link is in my footer. Some of use on ECF, including a couple of us on the porch, helped write it. 49,107 have signed so far. The more the merrier. :) May not do any good but at least many more are aware of what is going on since we started it. Thank you.
Hey Y'all. I have been terrible remiss in welcoming new members to the porch. Sorry about that.......I don't get on this side much because the more technical aspects of vaping give me a headache. ;)

I did want to tell y'all that I took my first leap into DIY yesterday. Now, PLEASE don't ask me what I made because I can't tell you. I just know I put some strawberry in there, some carmel, and some vanilla. I used ejuice me up so I could have 30mg of nicotine. Yeah, I'm a hard case. Now, I can't tell you what it tastes like because I haven't tasted it yet. I just put it to sleep...........I mean....steep. :D

I know I made a mess. I know I have to rethink some things, and I know I need more flavors. (Heavy sigh) I don't want to get technical. I just want to vape as inexpensively as possible. I still have a rag in the kitchen that smells delightfully strawberry. :p
Welcome to the DIY world, Roto! Hope it tastes great! :)
I am unable to solder. I soldered when I was doing stained glass work, but I am unable to do that anymore. Wish I could, but I could really wind up burned. My hands are a bit off!!! Just like my brain!!! :)
A number of people have hand problems here, hence why the push tor childproof caps ticks me off. There should be an option for non-childproof caps.
Replaceable batteries, like a flashlight. Buy a few. That way you can just slip another in to use while you charge the drained one. Just keep them rotating.

Just make sure you get the right batteries for the particular device. I buy most of mine from RTDvapor.com.

Nice! Thanks!

Missed the show. Oh, well. I miss everything. How was it?

A potential vapocalypse has given me an excuse to stock up (which I have a natural tendency to want to do anyway). But, it's also kept me from playing around as much. I've also tended to put off buying things like batteries because they'll always be available (so no rush).

In the meantime, I'm really low on batteries! Especially 18500s. I could really use a Black Friday sale at RTD Vapor.
I missed the show except for the last 10-15 minutes with the guests. That was enough to have me very worried.

I could use a good sale on those batteries also. What say you RTD?
Man, this thread moves at warp speed good lord. Us older ferts are a chatty lil bunch aren't we. Anyway, this is my first Ti setup. Unkamen Ti wire, 26g
36b1ebf8fe75fee880fece9af5b61337.jpg

13/12 wrap, 2mmID mounted high on my Aromamizer.
5423e6d1d0d9e07e774a520febc644f8.jpg
fc1e53d5b33da8945d4fa00ec9c3c1b8.jpg
5ba066bdbc0190af84935f56d99891f5.jpg

Mounted on my ipv4s in TC mode.
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446cdf89dd0cf0b8359fdbf56f2f1753.jpg
7f1a58be53878351bcbb77e019532c19.jpg

Who says older folk can't vape like the kids[emoji12] Tremendous vapor and flavor. The Ti wire really is fantastic. Richer vape than kanthal and in TC mode never a worry about a dry hit. The mod will not fire if the wick gets dry. Really amazing.
Very nice and great photography too! Thank you for posting those. :)
 
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