pls dont blow out clouds indoors around public

[Jorjey]

Just waiting for the day the smoke/ fire alarm is activated on a flight by a Vaper and authorities decide to make that person an example. HEAVY fines for disrupting flights.
I believe if the above we're to happen the ANTZ would all over it and there's the very real likelihood vaping might be banned in the terminals...presently vaping is generally allowed within terminal areas. >>>>>

I'm pretty sure the airlines don't allow vaping, or else they rescinded the ban. I was told they banned it because too many pax were asking the flight attendants about it and the flight attendants didn't have the time to keep explaining it. I say they should put it up on the TV screen along with the seatbelt video.

I just go into the head and vape my little heart out.

 

[Jorjey]

If people dont know what it is from far away and they just don't agree with the activity or image it has, then its just respectful not to do it there.

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I think the people who KNOW we're vaping should be more respectful to US. I'm tired of giving up MY enjoyment just because someone else doesn't like it and makes no effort to learn about it.

I won't wave it in someone's face and I won't blow vapor toward anyone, but if I'm vaping where it's allowed...I will continue to vape.

 

[Jorjey]

All it takes is a couple people blowing out vape clouds in front of people who don't understand, which will cause a certain type of fear in them. When people don't understand nor want to, that is when bans are started.
I personally don't vape in areas where suspension should arise to keep from the dirty looks from the ones who don't understand.

I don't think people who vape are generally the kind of people who would deliberately blow vapor into someone's face or at them to start trouble with non vapor folks.

 

[Jorjey]

I was actually asked to stop vaping in a bar for the first time over the weekend. It was a small bar and some people said the smell was bothering them. My group ended up leaving. I don't vape in restaurants, but bars have never been a problem.

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Jeez, what were you vaping?

 

[Jman8]

To me, the vape only where smoking is allowed position simply doesn't make sense.

And this is coming from one who still smokes. So, I'm pretty much covered either way on this line of reasoning. But if you are one who has chosen to be a non-smoker, then it really doesn't make sense, or makes as much sense as saying, "I won't eat/drink in public, except where smoking is allowed. Out of respect for other people in public." Which ought to include restaurants/bars, cause if you are eating salmon, which I absolutely despise, and which has a very strong odor, then I could argue that it is disrespectful/offensive to me, while I eat my steak. As it isn't fair for me to leave, or perhaps you to leave while I stay, then how about both of us go to the place where smokers are? Cause that somehow makes sense, and will be respectful to all involved.

Yeah, I'm scratching my head on that one too, but IMO, it makes as much sense as telling vapers to go to the area for smoking. Every time I've been around a person who is eating or drinking, that stuff gets on their breath, and when exhaled is detectable (via smell) and can linger, for as long as vapor does. Therefore, if you exhale anything, that is ever so slightly detectable, in public, it makes sense (in a nonsensical way) to go where the smokers are.

/rambling rant

 

[Anthal69]

I'm all for pushing the envelope. Of course don't hot box a bar or a restaurant, but I'll vape inside an establishment unless someone asks me not to. A more visual vaper may lead to less ignorance from others towards vaping. It may even lead to more studies being done to show the general public what us vapers already know. It's a safe alternative to analogs


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[Crypto66]

This dude was doing that on an ego battery today at work (he was a customer). All I can say is why would you piss others off, especially when in the next booth sat a kid...

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[Jorjey]

More intensive/extensive regulation is going to happen whether we like it or not. More likely than not, vaping will be treated the same as cigarette smoke. Here in California, we seem to hear about a new vaping ban being discussed every other week (whether it be indoors/outdoors... yes even outdoor bans have been discussed in various cities in Cali). Enforcement is spotty but until there is a valid scientific study that proves ecig vapor is 100% harmless, politicians are going to do their darndest to grab some attention and waste the taxpayer's time with backwards regulations... In my opinion about 0% of this nonsense has to do with obnoxious vapers doing their business indoors...

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On what grounds are they banning vaping? Are they saying they're banning it because they don't know what's in them? I think ANY ban on E-cigs has to do with government revenue.

 

[rbeckys8]

I respect others and don't vape around them..I can wait!!!!

 

[Jorjey]

I don't understand people talking about "vapor filling the place...etc". It's water vapor and it dissipates almost immediately. Smoke lingers in the air...water vapor does not. It gets about 18 inches away from the vaper, and then it's gone.

I wonder if some folks are putting tobacco in their tanks?

 

[Razorback]

I don't understand people talking about "vapor filling the place...etc". It's water vapor and it dissipates almost immediately. Smoke lingers in the air...water vapor does not. It gets about 18 inches away from the vaper, and then it's gone.

I wonder if some folks are putting tobacco in their tanks?

Devil's Advocate time: In all fairness, it's not water vapor. It's either PG or VG or a mixture with flavoring added. Not saying it's harmful, just saying that's it's not water. Don't want misinformation going around as that helps disprove the legitimacy of an "argument."

 

[p.opus]

I don't understand people talking about "vapor filling the place...etc". It's water vapor and it dissipates almost immediately. Smoke lingers in the air...water vapor does not. It gets about 18 inches away from the vaper, and then it's gone.

I wonder if some folks are putting tobacco in their tanks?

Some of the APV's and high VG juices out there put insane amounts of vapor. Just watch some of the Phil Busardo videos on You Tube. The other day I was told to put away my APV because people saw a wisp of vapor rise above my cubicle walls.

I don't want to lose my job being the poster boy for vaping rights, but at the same time, I told my supervisor, ..."I'm not smoking". He said, but this is a non-smoking building, and I said again...."I'm not smoking". I agreed to put it away, but I'm really kind of ...... about it. Two buttinski's in my office who didn't have the balls to come up to me and ask what I was doing simply went to my supervisor and complained.

He told me some people might be "offended" I told him that when some people microwave fish and stink up the office, I get "offended".

Again, it is a losing arguement. I just think we need to continue to respectfully stand up for our rights and continue to lobby to get "vaping" as socially acceptable adult behavior. I don't agree with selling e-cigs or e-juice to minors, but I look forward to the day where one can vape while enjoying a drink or cup of coffee after dinner.

As long as we "vapers" act like "smokers" we will be treated like "smokers". Being confrontational is not the answer, but neither is hiding in a corner stealthily vaping with a guilty look on our face hoping we don't get "caught".

That's why I don't vape a "cig-a-like" device. I want people to see quite clearly that I am not putting something that REMOTELY looks like a cigarette to my mouth.

 

[Sane Asylum]

Vaping isn't tobacco smoke but I do not think vapors have the 'right' to vape in an enclosed environment. In a perfect world, it should be up to the owners of the enclosed environment and there should be a notice that vaping is allowed at the door. I've always believed that a private establishment has the right to set their own rules on smoking and they certainly should have the right to set their own rules on vaping. If you don't like their rules, go somewhere else. And just as private establishments should have the right to permit vaping, government facilities have the right to not permit it. But, unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world.

 

[p.opus]

Vaping isn't tobacco smoke but I do not think vapors have the 'right' to vape in an enclosed environment.

When it is proven that there are no risks to second hand vapor, then I believe vapers have as much right to vape in an enclosed environment as does someone who bathes themselves in their favorite perfume. And believe me, living in South Florida, I have sat next to plenty of "blue hairs" that bathe in the stuff.

While I am all for being "considerate". Being "considerate" is a two way street. It means that once you realize that I am not smoking and not subjecting you to second hand smoke, you agree not to get your panties in a twist because you ignorantly link my vaping to actual smoking.

If you want to setup a "vaping", "no vaping" section, fine. Especially since "vape" doesn't spread across the entire building like smoke does. I remember when smoking was allowed in Waffle House, they had a non-smoking section and it was ludicrous because there was no escape from the smoke.

In the case of vaping, you can have separate sections. Don't want to be in the vaping section? Great. But don't sit there and look at me with your condesending looks and complain since my vape is not reaching you from across the aisle let alone across the room.

 

[Jman8]

When it is proven that there are no risks to second hand vapor, then I believe vapers have as much right to vape in an enclosed environment as does someone who bathes themselves in their favorite perfume.

Not addressing this to anyone in particular, just wishing to note that available science (which can be found on ECF) shows there is essentially 0 risk from second hand vapor (SHV). Or about as much risk as there is from a person exhaling in a room.

IMO, it puts to rest the inflated health concerns, that even some vapers have, with regards to vaping in enclosed spaces and/or around kids (of any age) being exposed to SHV.

 

[freeatlast!]

Everybody getting "offended" about everything, and thus having their "rights" respected not to have to deal with whatever it is, is another thing that drives me nuts. There are tons of things that people do that I don't like, but I don't cry about being "offended" by them, nor do I expect them to stop...This "political correctness" or "entitlement" or whatever it is, is getting ridiculous, IMO. Grrr!

 

[AaronCormier]

OP Yeppers

 

[makeitcrispy]

There's a lot of different views on this and lets be honest we all live in different areas where in some vaping may or may not be accepted as in others.

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[Sickkboy]

My colleague wear perfumes that I'm allergic to, and it cause me running nose quite often, so that should be banned right??

 

[diggyb]

I don't know what you all are vaping - but it certainly does collect and hang in the air when I'm doing it.