PRODIGY: Stick With The Old OR Go With The New ???

[a2dcovert]

Originally Posted by Johnny 5
Why not just keep the Prodigy V1 for people that are affraid of change and the new design for the rest of us. Why do you need a 3.7v prodigy when you have the protege?

Well 3.7 on a V1 using the 18650 2600mAh batteries will vape for almost 3 days on one battery, for one.

Kevin

 

[btroesch]

I like the stainless for the new prodigy. I would definitely want it smaller, even if it means being a 5V only device to keep the size down. I have a protege if I want 3.7V. I think the switch needs to be changed because I believe that the tact switch on the prodigy is the weak point and will fail regularly. The switch on my prodigy failed after 2 months. I love the push button switches, functionally, but tact switches simply can't handle the current draw. The switch runs hot and will not last. The prodigy needs a different switch that will handle the current draw so if a cam switch will handle it and will last, then I'm all for it. Stainless, smaller size, and a long lasting switch please!!!!

 

[a2dcovert]

I like the stainless for the new prodigy. I would definitely want it smaller, even if it means being a 5V only device to keep the size down. I have a protege if I want 3.7V. I think the switch needs to be changed because I believe that the tact switch on the prodigy is the weak point and will fail regularly. The switch on my prodigy failed after 2 months. I love the push button switches, functionally, but tact switches simply can't handle the current draw. The switch runs hot and will not last. The prodigy needs a different switch that will handle the current draw so if a cam switch will handle it and will last, then I'm all for it. Stainless, smaller size, and a long lasting switch please!!!!

That's been one image problem that the protege didn't deserve. Most of the "stuck switch" issues weren't caused by the switch at all. It was the switch housing material that was the problem. Those switches have a very good reliability history.

Kevin

 

[SKYYcamel]

The only thing thing that keeps me away from the Prodigy are the switch problems. My AdapteveR - no switch problems. My Chuck - no switch problems. Get the switch right and they will come and come!

 

[Surf Monkey]

I guess I've been lucky. I haven't had any problems with my Prodigy switch. Knock on wood...

 

[rinkusu]

As I have had no issues with the switch and it is a major sell point with me- I love the manual control of pushing a button- I voted for keeping it as-is with the minor improvements.

That said, I would be willing to purchase a new version if not to actually compare the two over time.

Solution: Sell both!

 

[lotus14]

Smaller SS even if *only* 5v.
Better switch.
Mouth activated? Doubtful. Have to see that in action.

 

[franklyspeaking]

So what about keeping the Protege as your staple 3.7v device.

A new 5v only device with your lip activated switch (Call it the 'Paradigm' or something like that )

And keep the current Prodigy version with your suggested improvments as the bridge between the two devices, think of the Prodigy as the multi-tool of the device range. It can deliver days of 3.7v usage or reliable 5v power with a small payment in size. It's the perfect middle ground mulit-tool.

This way you can continue to innovate, build a product range & continue to sell/service/support past, current and future customers with the full range of devices.

 

[buGG]

oh yes...i can see it now, introducing the ps triple threat...protege, prodigy v2, and the new 'paradigm'...oooh ahhh!!!!!!!!

 

[Fusoya]

Honestly Steve... I'm not wild about losing the switch. I just do not see how I will have the same control with a cam/mouth activated model. I love manual and could not see myself using anything without a switch.

That being said, I am ALL for a smaller, all SS model that is 5v only and fits the batteries tightly. Would be a great new purchase.

As it stands... while I want the protege I don't want to order a whole ton of 510 atomizers or switch back down to 3.7v when my V1 still kicks along great and I have 25+ atomizers for it.

Brandon

 

[Scottes]

If you make a new version I'll most likely buy one.
If you don't make a new version, then I already have one.

I won't buy a mouth-activated PV, though.

 

[GrimmGreen]

i voted for the "old" Prodigy. Mostly because i don't have one yet and the look of it has become pretty iconic. I'm also looking to get a 6v device , after vaping on the silverbullet i feel like i need a 6v device now... just not so honkin big , if you could do a slightly smaller , stainless steel , 6v device i would be on board with that.

 

[ddy611]

the only thing is keeping me away from prodigy is size and if you want to run 3.7v or 6v, extra $25 please. make a smaller device that can run 3.7, 5 and 6 volts without spending more money.

 

[Niniane]

I might consider buying an improved and slightly smaller version of the current Prodigy. While I love having my V1 Prodigy, the current switches really do seem prone to being finicky, and are not great for those of us with CTS.

On the other hand, I'd order a much smaller, 5v unit with a much more consistantly reliable and long-lived activation method in a second. For me personally, that sounds like perfection

 

[Surf Monkey]

I guess I'm tempting fate by asking this, but what issues are people having with Prodigy switches? The only thing I've had mine do is fail to activate when not fully depressed, and it only does that once in every 20 or so activations - probably because I get lazy about pressing it all the way in. Other than that it's been a work horse.

 

[LuckyCharm]

I love my Prodigy V.1 and have never had trouble with the switch. Smaller would be nice, but not at the sacrifice of power. I'm just afraid that 5V wouldn't be enough.

 

[a2dcovert]

I guess I'm tempting fate by asking this, but what issues are people having with Prodigy switches? The only thing I've had mine do is fail to activate when not fully depressed, and it only does that once in every 20 or so activations - probably because I get lazy about pressing it all the way in. Other than that it's been a work horse.

Surf, this whole switch thing has been blown totally out of context. I don't know of any problem with the Prodigy switchs. Most of these Stuck Switch problems on the Protege are really not the switch at all, except for one or two. It's like people like to repeat rumors and then the story grows and ... All the models of PS units use the same switch.

Kevin

 

[Niniane]

I guess I'm tempting fate by asking this, but what issues are people having with Prodigy switches? The only thing I've had mine do is fail to activate when not fully depressed, and it only does that once in every 20 or so activations - probably because I get lazy about pressing it all the way in. Other than that it's been a work horse.

The replacement resistored switch I have sometimes refuses to activate. I test everything with a meter (all comes up good) and it ends up needing one of two things. If I press reeeeeeeeeeeally hard and long (no comment, lol) I can sometimes get it to start working again. I don't know if the innards of the tact switch are not returning to their correct position or what, as I can't see inside when it's doing this, and I don't want to disassemble my tact switch to look. If that doesn't work, I can sometimes get it to work by pushing the housing out and gently pushing the tact switch up in its hole in the rubber housing, being very careful not to disturb the soldering (all solder points are infact firmly intact, btw - we checked that too). I also had one switch in which the resistor went bad, so my husband took out the resistor and I paid Casey for it and kept it as an unresistored switch. It works well that way, but I only use it once in a blue moon when I need super extra long battery life, so I can't judge how long that switch would work under my usual heavy daily use.

Out of curiosity, do you have a hard plastic housing or a rubbery one?

In any case, the switch is the only frustrating aspect of my Prodigy, and the only thing that has made me look at possibly sacrificing my beloved 5v vaping for something like a Super T with a mechanical switch (size is also a consideration, but a more minor one imo). I think PS is an outstanding company and good people, and I'd much rather stay at 5v.

My posts weren't meant as an unsolicited complaint by any means. While I have seen posts from other people who have had their Prodigy switches stop working, this post is just my personal experience, not rumor-mongering or anything of the sort. Since the question was asked, I simply wanted to voice my opinion on possible future options

 

[Surf Monkey]

Out of curiosity, do you have a hard plastic housing or a rubbery one?

Hard plastic.


a2dcovert: okay, that clears it up. I had a feeling this was being made out to be a somewhat larger issue than it actually is. Having said that I'm sure that my switch will now die post haste.

 

[bearscreek]

Which is supposed to be better - hard plastic or rubber?