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Dreamer mods have a info card showing both configurations of battery placement, however, They also state the preferred method is Positive post up !
A mechanical should fire either way. Some are designed specifically with the pos. down. Most tube mechs have venting holes at the bottom. On one hand wuth a "hybrid" with pos. Up you can dead short at the atty through a pin not protruding enough or dented in pos. contact. On the other hand you can dead short at the button through bad battery wrap. It comes down to battery safety. Make sure your batteries are in tip top shape and don't build stupid low and you should be fine. Either way it's pointed you do not want to vent a battery.
 
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Good morning shinyitis folk. LOL, @AzPlumber that is exactly what my husband came home muttering. "I'm glad I'm not a plumber." Things get proprietary and weird apparently. I invited the husband to make me a system to replace my bathroom faucet just using random scraps. He declined, LOL. It really is crazy.

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As far as thas issue is concerned,yes. That concerns battery wraps and a dead short caused by the battery completing the circut without going through a coil first. Which is the same thing that happens if the center pin and outer sleeve both contact the battery at the same time.
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The negative side of the battery is stronger and won't dent in so some say it is safer to use direct 510s with positive down. Some tubes are designed for pos. dowm and lined inside to make them safer.

Edit: @NolaMel this one explains the protruding pin.
 
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It's not as easy as saying "positive up is always safer". Let's make up a hypothetical situation:
Jimmy Jones has a mech with venting holes on the bottom, he puts his batteries in positive contact up. He carries his mech in his pocket and forgot to use the locking ring, without noticing his mod fires for an extended amount of time, overheating the battery and leading to venting. The pressure and heat deform the battery, blocking off the path to the venting holes located at the bottom.

Remember when in this very thread someone reported a clipped off piece of wire getting between positive post and deck?

So looking at just the battery orientation with regards to safety is the wrong way to look at things, there's more than that at play. The image is right in that damaged wraps can cause a problem, so first and foremost the mech you choose should have either a non conductive inner sleeve (very rare to say the least) or provide enough room to use double wrapped batteries (still check your wraps every time before inserting).
Using a no-dead-short orientation won't prevent battery venting.The venting holes need to be near the positive contact of the battery to be effective.

For faux hybrids my opinion is that in addition to a protruding 510 pin the insulator of the 510 should protrude as well. If your mod puts undue stress on the battery's contact then throw it away - it's not safe to use no matter which orientation your battery is in (the (-) can dent easily as well and there's no telling what that means for the guts of the battery, dented batteries are trash).
Eg the new sandman from atom vapes seems to be one of those mods you don't want to use, it relies on the user not tightening the switch or screwing the atty down all the way.

Many manufacturers put design/looks over safety, the price sadly isn't an indication it was designed with safety in mind either.
 

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I am switching back to pos. pointed towards the atty unless specified like in the SOI X.
I never found a definitive answer. They have come a long way in design and quality with the newer tube mechanicals. I have seen a few with the vent holes at the top and I like the idea of lined insides. They used to put appearance over safety a lot of the time. It seems that safety is more of a priority on many of the newer mods.I think it is more important to be mindful of the condition of the battery than which direction it goes in.
 
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    I'm so happy for your and your husband, @fran! Man, chemo is just awful but when it works, it's hard to argue with the results. YAY and I'm so glad you got this wonderful news.

    I'm pretty happy just found a new member who was trying to decide between a smok stick and something else... Now he can try them both. :) Sometimes giving away a win to a new member is (almost) as fun as buying one that suits me better. LOL. :)

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