So I could turn out to be full of it here.

[TrollDragon]

Oh wow! That is much bigger than the Plus deck. I guess I’m getting a Titan, lol. I only have one box that will fit it. An N1 with a 3S lipo.

She might not like her build but that is a lot of coil and .96 ohms is outstanding. She ever mention what voltage she runs it?

This was the build, framed staggered corrugated - 26g cores, 36 fuse, 1×3mm ribbon, all Kanthal. I've sent her a MSG to see if she remembers.

 

[bombastinator]

I followed this thread when it first started and enjoyed the read. The last two pages I tuned into this morning made me realize 1) I am now out of my league 2) there are a lot of smart folks on here that can carry on a conversation in which I have not understood a single sentence.

I totally feel you. I get the feeling I attracted some actual engineers, at least momentarily. I may have scared them off again with my late night stupid though. Honestly the dead fresh morning has never been awesome either.!
I took calc 3 times before I got it and then they wouldn’t let me go on. ...... me off honestly. I’m not saying they were wrong though.

 

[TheTinMan]

Apologies to @bombastinator for hijacking the thread on several occasions. But parts of it could be quite relevant to your experiment.

I know you weren’t using a mech for your test and a regulated mod shouldn’t allow your batteries to be over taxed. But if you had your .14 ohm build on a mech with a 30 amp battery you would be looking at this

.14 ohms
4.2 volts
30 amps being drawn
126 watts

Battery life wouldn’t be great and it boarders on dangerous.

So say you ran that on a series deck. A series deck mutilplies instead of halves your resistance for a dual coil build. Now you are at .28 ohms and looking like this

.28 ohms
4.2 volts
15 amps
63 watts

You would be safer. I don’t think there would be a huge improvement in battery life for a mech because you are heating up quite a bit of metal.

But on a regulated device you can up the watts quite a bit and probably notice a improvement on flavor and battery life.

 

[bombastinator]

My view of more power in a bigger vape producing more flavor is: well it certainly ought to! What the local vape shop guy says is the flavor kind of crosses a threshold around 60 watts where suddenly new flavor notes become detectable and really opens up. I guess I'll never know because all indications from a lower power perspective is it's not what I'm looking for. I can't handle high VG and like to vape a lot. I keep reducing flavoring, never thought I'd be doing that when I started. Some things about my setup, such as a tight drip tip, that increase flavor are not compatible with more power, so it would take even more power to make up for changing that, so it seems like the 10% improvement makes some sense. It could probably have been tweaked to be better, but I commend bomb for even trying that much.

Some of the greatest vape flavors seem only possible below 10 watts, in my experience. I don't think the high power advocates know this. My guess as to why this is, though, is at that power the coil can actually go hotter and produce a higher ratio of nasty chemicals without it tasting bad, therefore making certain juices taste the way I originally discovered them.


Re: mosquitoes, I've thought before about how the combination of the relaxing effect and bug repellent was a big thing for smoking, especially long ago.

I’m trying to cross that threshold now by not doing that. I took the big boy coils off and the latest attempt is a 28g SS single coil no exotic weirdness using as many wraps as I could fit between the post holes (12-13?). It’s 2.0ohm, and at 22w it’s really very very close.

 

[bombastinator]

Apologies to @bombastinator for hijacking the thread on several occasions. But parts of it could be quite relevant to your experiment.

I know you weren’t using a mech for your test and a regulated mod shouldn’t allow your batteries to be over taxed. But if you had your .14 ohm build on a mech with a 30 amp battery you would be looking at this

.14 ohms
4.2 volts
30 amps being drawn
126 watts

Battery life wouldn’t be great and it boarders on dangerous.

So say you ran that on a series deck. A series deck mutilplies instead of halves your resistance for a dual coil build. Now you are at .28 ohms and looking like this

.28 ohms
4.2 volts
15 amps
63 watts

You would be safer. I don’t think there would be a huge improvement in battery life for a mech because you are heating up quite a bit of metal.

But on a regulated device you can up the watts quite a bit and probably notice a improvement on flavor and battery life.

As I said to someone else earlier there is no apology necessary. I consider a 7page thread to be too long and confusing to follow anyway unless you happened to be reading it as it came out, in which case it doesn’t matter.

I think I attempted some stupid metaphors like pissing in the ocean. It was past my bedtime.

 

[TheTinMan]

Voltrove V2 41MM LE

Okay, I need one of those too. Lol.

They make anything bigger than an N1 enclosure?

 

[TheTinMan]

I think I attempted some stupid metaphors like pissing in the ocean. It was past my bedtime.

All good. I get a little weird when it comes to PWMs. They are to me what Reply is to DNA TC folks. My ultimate vape.

 

[TrollDragon]

I’m trying to cross that threshold now by not doing that. I took the big boy coils off and the latest attempt is a 28g SS single coil no exotic weirdness using as many wraps as I could fit between the post holes (12-13?). It’s 2.0ohm, and at 22w it’s really very very close.

You could also try one of Boden's triple parallel 30ga coils, easy to wrap but a bit of a task to keep all nice and straight for wicking. He had a thread on these and his Radiator coil design back in the day.

Smaller gauge, less power required and lots of surface area for flavor and vapor.

 

[dc99]

You could also try one of Boden's triple parallel 30ga coils, easy to wrap but a bit of a task to keep all nice and straight for wicking. He had a thread on these and his Radiator coil design back in the day.

Smaller gauge, less power required and lots of surface area for flavor and vapor.

I use his radiator coils in my modfather now and then. Just install them standing up

 

[bombastinator]

You could also try one of Boden's triple parallel 30ga coils, easy to wrap but a bit of a task to keep all nice and straight for wicking. He had a thread on these and his Radiator coil design back in the day.

Smaller gauge, less power required and lots of surface area for flavor and vapor.

Definitely interesting, but sadly Way too much trouble. Even multiple coils is too much trouble if it can be done without. Plus the only SS I got is the 28g

 

[dc99]

Okay, I need one of those too. Lol.

They make anything bigger than an N1 enclosure?

Suit case or back pack. haha

 

[TrollDragon]

Okay, I need one of those too. Lol.

They make anything bigger than an N1 enclosure?

They have a new PXL2 case I'd like to get for my Titan.
DNA cutouts, I have not seen it without them though.

It's smaller than the N1 too but nice and wide.

 

[TrollDragon]

Definitely interesting, but sadly Way too much trouble. Even multiple coils is too much trouble if it can be done without. Plus the only SS I got is the 28g

I've built a few of them, all good until it comes time to rewick.

 

[dc99]

They have a new PXL2 case I'd like to get for my Titan.
DNA cutouts, I have not seen it without them though.

It's smaller than the N1 too but nice and wide.

The pxl2 is small thou. Its only 80mm tall
It is wide but I cant get dual 21700 inside it. Woud have to be 18650 or maybe a small lipo

 

[chanelvaps]

I get the feeling I attracted some actual engineers, at least momentarily.

Exactly!

 

[Punk In Drublic]

 

[bombastinator]

Wow. I know what a stator is anyway. It might be real. It bugs the heck out of me when I don’t know the meaning of a word. I kinda want to write the unknown words down and find out what he was talking about.
I guess everyone has their personal stupid wastes of time they enjoy for inexplicable reasons.

It’s probably all outmoded 80s vintage pre computerized industrial automation. Relay technology.

Industrial automation was early robotics, more or less. The issue is it worked on large electrical currents and actually moved things around which computers used to have a hard time doing.

Opening the back of an old fashioned 1950’s era elevator is terrifying. They were fearsomely complex. Entire walls of circuitry.

There are parts of cars that still use the stuff for the same reason. Next to the fuses on your fuse box panel in your car will be a row of little colored boxes. Same stuff.

That entire gigantic box probably fits on someone’s desk now. I got a friend who’s into that stuff. Maybe I’ll throw the video at him and see what happens.

 

[Punk In Drublic]

Wow. I know what a stator is anyway. It might be real. It bugs the heck out of me when I don’t know the meaning of a word. I kinda want to write the unknown words down and find out what he was talking about.
I guess everyone has their personal stupid wastes of time they enjoy for inexplicable reasons.

It’s probably all outmoded 80s vintage pre computerized industrial automation. Relay technology.

Industrial automation was early robotics, more or less. The issue is it worked on large electrical currents and actually moved things around which computers used to have a hard time doing.

Opening the back of an old fashioned 1950’s era elevator is terrifying. They were fearsomely complex. Entire walls of circuitry.

There are parts of cars that still use the stuff for the same reason. Next to the fuses on your fuse box panel in your car will be a row of little colored boxes. Same stuff.

That entire gigantic box probably fits on someone’s desk now. I got a friend who’s into that stuff. Maybe I’ll throw the video at him and see what happens.

It’s a running engineering joke that dates back to the late 40’s where technobabble (that’s an actual word) is used! It originated as Turboencabulator but evolved with the times to Retroencabulator. The product, or even the technology (for the most part) is not real.

Here’s an older Turboencabulator gag.

 

[bombastinator]

It’s a running engineering joke that dates back to the late 40’s where technobabble (that’s an actual word) is used! It originated as Turboencabulator but evolved with the times to Retroencabulator. The product, or even the technology (for the most part) is not real.

Here’s an older Turboencabulator gag.

Well I fell for that one then. Thank you for taking pity on me and saving me an hour of fruitless googling.

I have officially been well trolled.

 

[bombastinator]

I've built a few of them, all good until it comes time to rewick.

I decided to build a few to try em. Screw rewicking the things are like finger slinkys. they’re nearly impossible to get into the posts. They do work though the vape seems to be too cool.