US Deeming Date Change - Denied
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I have nurse practitioners for my first line at my chosen medical provider. I told them about my having quit smoking and taking up vaping. They were very happy, and I offered to go out to my car and get my Sigelei 150W (w Aspire Atlantis II tank) and show them and they said fine. I was vaping in their offices!!! They were raving about it.
I have nurse practitioners for my first line at my chosen medical provider. I told them about my having quit smoking and taking up vaping. They were very happy, and I offered to go out to my car and get my Sigelei 150W (w Aspire Atlantis II tank) and show them and they said fine. I was vaping in their offices!!! They were raving about it.
NOTE! They wanted me to quit smoking as I have aortic stenosis. Any smoking is bad for me and would force me to have a valve sooner. I'm on meds for my heart and I feel fine...so far so good. (KNOCK ON WOOD!)
Yet, the FDA has to get funding through Congress and the pertinent subcommittees. Why the significance of HR2058? Doesn't your argument render those moot? According to your argument, the President just tells the FDA "Make it so Number One" and magicifically, Deeming Regs are a done deal, money is never an object and all is smarmy ooky goodness.
Resignation and cynicism = the true state of human being. Evidenced here every day.
Addressing the FDA’s Resource Challenges - Challenges for the FDA - NCBI Bookshelf
Maybe if the FDA stopped pursuing bogus infractions like walnuts, cheerios, and whole milk suppliers ... and modified risk tobacco products ... it'd have the resources to do what it was intended to do when it was formed. It strikes me as a bit of self-fulfilling grandeur that the agency consistently reaches further and further and then complains that it lacks the funding to pursue its core purpose.
A response to your petition on the tobacco deeming regulations:
On November 19, a petition you signed -- asking the Administration to urge the FDA to re-work its tobacco deeming regulations -- reached 100,000 signatures, the threshold for receiving a White House response.
We realize that this is an issue that many people feel passionately about, for a variety of health, safety, and financial reasons. While we cannot comment on the regulations while they are under interagency review with the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB), here are some facts about the process so far:
On October 19, the U.S. Food & Drug Administration (FDA) Center for Tobacco Products submitted to the OMB a draft of the final “deeming” regulations on tobacco products subject to the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, as amended by the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act. The proposed regulation was previously available for public comment.
We look forward to updating you when there is more to report following the release of the final regulations.
Thank you for your participation in the We the People platform -- we’ll talk again soon.
-- The We the People Team
Yea, before they added/subtracted/reworded/checked with legal and submitted for Rubber Stamping, Blind to the Public Eye
Yea, before they added/subtracted/reworded/checked with legal and submitted for Rubber Stamping, Blind to the Public Eye
I'm closing in on a gallon of Nude Nicotine Armor, 100mg, in 250ml bottles. Three more 250ml, 100mg bottles next week, plus a nicotine test kit.
What I think is, push, push, push... just like every other group does, and if we get what we want and everything isn't banned, then fine, if not, be prepared to back ourselves up. No matter what, it's going to be messy, and everything we want we are not going to get. I'm not in favor of the 2007 date, and feel there should not be any date at all, but I cannot change anything.
They say this is the best Democracy/Republic, but I don't see anyone getting anything except for certain groups screaming wildly about things I don't agree with. This entire govt was NOT designed right, it should be more libertarian to protect the rights of every individual, not just some individuals, and it should not be designed to take or restrict liberty. I never thought I'd be saying these things, but they're finally coming for me.
The thing that gets me is ... if they allowed us to develop a vaping program to help people get off tobacco ... it would have enormous success.
One where you start off with proven vape gear and step down on nicotine until one has totally quit
One where you start off with proven vape gear and step down on nicotine until one has totally quit
He tried to pass a 40 cent/ml tax on e liquid in Ohio, but it was defeated as part of the budget bill. However, he's done a lot for this state financially so I'm torn on his candidacy. We are much better off now than before he became governor.
Many of the states who have enacted taxes on e liquid have had this done by the R's. So maybe they aren't trying to squash vaping, but they aren't against taxing it.
So this may be your choice come voting: vote D and end vaping on the open market or vote R and pay excessive taxes for that right.
The thing that gets me is ... if they allowed us to develop a vaping program to help people get off tobacco ... it would have enormous success.
One where you start off with proven vape gear and step down on nicotine until one has totally quit
I agree with your desire and impetus to get people off of cigarettes, cigars, chewing tobacco, but I decided NOT to quit vaping a while ago.
I drink caffeine all day, and I see nicotine as - as harmless. Plus I'm not bothering anyone. It's none of anyone's business what I'm putting in to my body if I'm not bugging anyone and I am not through my actions to be a cost upon society. I think it's time for me to break out my philosophy texts from college and see what these "irrational people" are acting on to take away my rights, if one can make sense of any of any of it.
Ahem.. Some of us have no desire to "totally quit" nicotine. I went from smoking 2PAD to cigarette-free in the space of four days a bit more than two years ago. Isn't that good enough for you?The thing that gets me is ... if they allowed us to develop a vaping program to help people get off tobacco ... it would have enormous success.
One where you start off with proven vape gear and step down on nicotine until one has totally quit
lol ... I'm not talking about getting you guys off vaping ... I'm talking about out right advertising vaping as a proven way to quit smoking
I don't plan on quitting myself. Hence why I'm stocking up on nicotine. I need nicotine to help with my "brain cooties", but I can see where there are folks who eventually want to quit the nic.
lol ... I'm not talking about getting you guys off vaping ... I'm talking about out right advertising vaping as a proven way to quit smoking
There's nothing to stop a company that wants to go pharmaceutical route and then can advertise vaping as proven way to quit smoking. I think the reason we don't see much of that right now is cause you'd essentially be advertising for the entire industry.
But I can very much see post FDA deeming, around 18 months or later there being a product that is marketed in this way, and is then only competing against BT and BV companies, all of whom will have so much against them from ANTZ perspective and from gullible vapers (or wannabe vapers) that it will be very appealing. I wouldn't be surprised if these products are allowed to use tank-like systems to make it much easier for those 'in need.'
I'm sure part of this campaign will be end goal of getting these users off nicotine, and then testimonials about how much better life is minus the heavy addiction to nicotine. Though, from my cold turkey days, I'd love to have a chat with anyone that cares to discuss it. Methinks no one will truly care to discuss it, and only care to discuss what their ANTZ operatives tell them is fair play for discussion.
Isn't horrible that we may even need to make such choices? I do not see any fairness in either situation.
Isn't horrible that we may even need to make such choices? I do not see any fairness in either situation.
Yes, it is. Although with the latter, vapers like my cousin could still buy easy to use clearos,.egos or simple mods. And I could make her juice. With the former and prohibition, I'm not sure if I can help her indefinitely.
Closing a proposal for comments before being submitted is so SOP at all levels of government that you're trying to make something out of nothing. RFC's and commenting periods are part of the proposal process, mandated in regulations. Wanna oppose your neighbor trying to re-zone his plot to put up an apartment complex? That's when you get to put your opinion before the decision makers. Simple as that.Yea, before they added/subtracted/reworded/checked with legal and submitted for Rubber Stamping, Blind to the Public Eye
You're not deciding who gets to be President to begin with, so what's the fuss?Isn't horrible that we may even need to make such choices? I do not see any fairness in either situation.
You can. And I can. Now what do I do for my cousin because it seems all FDA proof things I can give her will be too complicated? She sometimes puts her shoes on the wrong feet. I can't afford 500 egos and 5000 coils.
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