What IS the infatuation with "Massive Clouds" of "vapor"?? Is it necessary for enjoyment or a fad?

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Ryedan: Well, I'm not saying that risk taking behaviour is inherently bad.

I used to ride a motorbike, and I still snowboard. Never mind the smoking :)

I just think it's overly simple to say "It's the shops doing it". I think there is something problematic underlying that in the culture of vaping, in that there are multitudes of people turning up in the New Members forum saying pretty much "I've been vaping for 25 minutes, and I've just built this quad coil at 0.2 ohms. My batteries are blue, and that's all I know about them. My face is on fire, what am I doing wrong?" Not all of them got that way by being 'miss-sold' things, many of them charged in of their own free will.

I'm not saying I know how to fix it, nor that it can be fixed at reasonable cost... Just that I do think it's a problem. I suspect as vaping becomes more mainstream and knowledge better codified and spread, not to mention as the technology improves and becomes inherently safer, it'll probably partly fix itself.
 
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I do it because the flavor is as ridiculous as the cloud... BUT i also like the fun of it... Making it look like a hedge is on fire when walking the dog... Making people dissapear and saying the words "for my next trick i will make this man dissapear in a cloud"... And its just a good way to get people interested in vaping

And i compete with my friend... Im in the lead at the moment


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Well said I am glad I read this post. I am new to this and I thought I was missing out on something. Thanks!

Nope not missing a thing. If you are getting a vape that satifies you and keeps you from smoking that is all you need.

Some have turned vapor production into something of a pissing contest/extreme sport but that is not necessary in any way shape or form for vaping to be very effective.
 

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I'm not saying I know how to fix it, nor that it can be fixed at reasonable cost... Just that I do think it's a problem. I suspect as vaping becomes more mainstream and knowledge better codified and spread, not to mention as the technology improves and becomes inherently safer, it'll probably partly fix itself.

I think you're right. I'm hoping the mech mod craze that's so popular these days for high power vaping will peter out this year. I see reasonably inexpensive regulated mods coming to market that can handle low resistance coils at 40 - 50 watts and I think that's going to take over. If that happens, we'll be back to just worrying about the regular battery issues that affect anything using batteries.

I suspect 2014 will be an interesting year for vaping and not just because of this issue. Let's hope it all goes well.
 

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What IS the infatuation with "Massive Clouds" of "vapor"?? Is it necessary for enjoyment or a fad?

Im not sure, but I think its the same infatuatuation as with big boobs. Its kinda nice at times....and fun to look at, but both can get in the way when your trying to concentrate on other things......:D

I like the way you think Thunderball LOL.
 

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I think the reason "cloud chasing" has become the thing is that it's where the industry is at these days.

How many old timers here remember using 2 piece atomizer/cartridge setups? Remember how they sucked? Remember having to go to the fish store and buy that blue filter stuff just to get it to wick enough? Remember the old clearomizers? How difficult they were to fill? How they cracked if you even said "cinnamon" or "banana" near them?

Fast forward to today. Any newbie coming in can get a setup that blows what away what we had even 3 years ago. And that means the more advanced users benefit too. It used to be rebuilding your CE2. Now its cloud chasing
 

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I am so glad you posted and said what you did. I think that a lot of new people to vaping, and the people who are reading the forum to find out about it, could easily end up feeling like they are missing out on something, or not doing something they should be doing, based on some of the posts they read. Like other posters here I believe we are all entitled to enjoy vaping the way we choose to (as long as it is done safely IMHO) but care must be taken to make sure that we don't make newer vapers feel that they are behind the times, so to speak, just because they don't have this or that equipment that puts out lots of vapor. I wouldn't want them to think that vaping won't work for them unless they get this tank or that apv because they might just decide not to give it a go at all.
 

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...If that happens, we'll be back to just worrying about the regular battery issues that affect anything using batteries.

I suspect 2014 will be an interesting year for vaping and not just because of this issue. Let's hope it all goes well.

I've read about some major advancements in battery technology that may be appearing Real Soon (tm). Nothing to do with vaping, of course, more the Internet Of Things and the mobile computer / phone / convergent device (whatever the heck you want to call them) revolution.

I wouldn't be that surprised if in a few years time the idea of batteries being overloaded by vaping seems positively quaint...
 

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ok so there is alot here, i mean alot, and from the first two pages, it seems to me to all be pretty much the same thing, and i just want to put a little input in, so if this is not the way the thread is continuing, or off topic, or has been said i apologize...

i like having a nice cloud, i always preferred a hookah to a cig, it was just a matter of do i have 2 hours or so to actually smoke the hookah... i preferred hookah over cigs, they had flavor, were smooth, relaxing, and i got more smoke...

so... i may be viewed differently because of this, but i like to have a nice little cloud, not dual coil, not sub ohms, just a nice cloud, with flavor... and being smooth...

love me a nice smooth vape, that gives a nice big cloud on exhale, one that i can blow o's with, that i can just have some fun if i want to... but it has to have taste, its a bit of a plus that vg even though it does not offer as much flavor, it has a much sweeter taste to it...

which i believe is the actual reason that vg decreases the flavor, the sweet takes some of the taste away...
 

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How other people vape is always of interest to me. Cloud chasers, really? You're into that? Knock yourself out. I only draw the line when there are people in the room who don't smoke and never smoked and feel they have to put up with some clown covering them in vapour to show them how 'cool' they are (because obviously the question of how 'cool' this person is or is not was at the very tip top of their list of priorities when they started their day).

Cloud chase in your own space and love it to death and I'm right beside you cheering you on. Do it in other people's faces who don't want it and I say reconsider your value in the company of others.
 

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To the OP - Personally, I love using my RBAs and seeing the huge clouds of vapor. But if the TH and flavor are not there, then it is pointless to me. I do like to try out different builds on different RBAs to see what the clouds are like. But like I said, if the the TH and flavor are not there its pointless.

I believe some of it is for show, but some of my devices have given me the all three- massive clouds, TH, and flavor. I personally do enjoy blowing a huge cloud, just not every single time I take a vape.
 

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How other people vape is always of interest to me. Cloud chasers, really? You're into that? Knock yourself out. I only draw the line when there are people in the room who don't smoke and never smoked and feel they have to put up with some clown covering them in vapour to show them how 'cool' they are (because obviously the question of how 'cool' this person is or is not was at the very tip top of their list of priorities when they started their day).

Cloud chase in your own space and love it to death and I'm right beside you cheering you on. Do it in other people's faces who don't want it and I say reconsider your value in the company of others.

This, I absolutely agree with this, before Christmas, me and two buddies from work were outside, bs ing, got to the smoking area, i start vaping, 1 buddy starts smoking, and one of my exhales, the cloud migrates, right towards him, i try to wave it away and let him know im sorry... he doesnt smoke, no need for that to get in his face... stupid wind!
 

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My first mod (and first e-cig) was a semi-regulated 3.7V E-Power 14650. Even that produced about the same amount of vapor as the smoke I used to produce with Camel lights. When I upgraded to VV/VW and little more consistent power I could produce a lot more vapor from an APV than I could produce smoke from cigarettes.

People like cloud chasing just because they like the big clouds o' vapor. That's fine with me. Some see cloud chasing as a competitive pursuit.

I suspect the popularity of winding coils will peak and fade into a niche aspect of the vaping world like dripping. The convenience of other atomizing solutions will win out with most vapers. I see the same thing happening with clearos. A lot of vapers are returning to carto tanks for their combined ease of use and superior vapor quality.
 

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Very well said!
Ryedan: Well, I'm not saying that risk taking behaviour is inherently bad.

I used to ride a motorbike, and I still snowboard. Never mind the smoking :)

I just think it's overly simple to say "It's the shops doing it". I think there is something problematic underlying that in the culture of vaping, in that there are multitudes of people turning up in the New Members forum saying pretty much "I've been vaping for 25 minutes, and I've just built this quad coil at 0.2 ohms. My batteries are blue, and that's all I know about them. My face is on fire, what am I doing wrong?" Not all of them got that way by being 'miss-sold' things, many of them charged in of their own free will.

I'm not saying I know how to fix it, nor that it can be fixed at reasonable cost... Just that I do think it's a problem. I suspect as vaping becomes more mainstream and knowledge better codified and spread, not to mention as the technology improves and becomes inherently safer, it'll probably partly fix itself.
 

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I'm a little bit surprised at the responses to the OP. I was expecting the cloud defenders to come out and say how the clouds made a huge difference in flavor enhancement.

I'm fairly new at this and I am looking for flavor. If that means huge clouds then so be it but I am not going to go chasing clouds just for the sake of it.. Iv'e got much better things to do.

For the people who are cloud chasers and enjoy doing that.. good for them
 

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Been vaping since da 510 cartridges. Therefore I must say that my most enjoyable vaping experiences are full o' flav, a Mt.Vesuvius volume o' vapor and 'lung fill'. Yes, LF, not TH.

Social etiquette aside, I know that I'm on da right path to a great vape when da plumes are thick and sumptuous with my t-buds celebrating on my tongue.

Rarely have I enjoyed a great vape with wispy vapor. Has happened, but not often enough for my vaping desires. Ergo, I forever seek da Excalibur of equipment configuration, taste, vapor and lung fill.

And dat's my rationale fer my 'quest'. To Hades with picking sides or getting upset... just me and my vape!
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