Who here is not stocking up in preparation for the May 12th, 2020 Deadline?
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Who stands to benefit greatly from the ban of all but approved vape gear besides government taxation?? BIG tobacco!! They have the influence and money to deal with the Fraud Deception Authority - Competition gone no cheap products to take their business away from smokeless products they have or will have soon and finally governt happy to get all that lost tax money they are not getting now from unregulated products.
Disagree on a good chance of being caught for dealing. For those that think that, not likely. With weed it was surely possible, but really a small chance, and depended on many factors, such as: amount one had/dealt, color of their skin, how much propaganda machine was turned up by anti-types, etc. Even then, I'd venture to guess that for every dealer busted, there were dozens that were not. And that's for a drug that alters the mind, and was subject to insane propaganda, pre-internet.
The recent THC scandal was insane propaganda against nic vaping, but took 6 months for likes of CDC to admit nic vaping had very little to nothing to do with the illnesses, even while they claimed otherwise for several months. Back in weed days and pre-internet, they could've ran with that sort of propaganda for a decade.
They are clearly not going to bust doors down for just having stash. They could conceivably bust doors down for persons with a stash that is being distributed among family/friends. I would think it unlikely, even then, but possible. But this holds true with small time underground dealers. Underground dealers that are medium to large fish will probably get busted, but only a small percentage. And not for awhile. For the foreseeable future, it's really mostly about whatever is on legal market and is being marketed to children (in their eyes). At the pace they move, that could play out for another 10 years. But here in the internet age, I reckon all this will play out a bit faster, at least from our side of the equation and having rest of society, non-vapers, realize how overly zealous anti-types are. Right about now, majority of non-vapers appear to side with societal need for heavy regulation.
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In the state I live in its illegal to have 50kg or more of potatoes in your possession.
It seems like a lot but between the two gardens on two properties I manage to regularly produce more without really trying despite the heat and lack of water.
Everytime I harvest them I feel gangster AF.
Then I give them away and feel like Im really sticking it to "the man"
In the state I live in its illegal to have 50kg or more of potatoes in your possession.
It seems like a lot but between the two gardens on two properties I manage to regularly produce more without really trying despite the heat and lack of water.
Everytime I harvest them I feel gangster AF.
Then I give them away and feel like Im really sticking it to "the man"
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So you walk around in possession of over 50 kg of potatoes? What kind of pants do you buy, they sound really handy to wear. And you must stay in great shape from long walks.
My potato habit has kept me in peak physical condition, quitting smoking and taking up vaping enhanced it.
Big pants and a loonnnnnnnnng jacket! nah nah nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah nah naah nah.
So...scenario...vape juice practically gone, but you make your own and have a LOT of supplies to do this for a good while, perhaps indefinitely. You're at work, outside on break, happily vaping and vaping coworkers, who by this time, really cant get juice anymore and probably didn't stock up on DIY see you vaping happily and wonder how you are able to have juice when they do not. Do you tell them you make your own? In real life, I think I'm the only person at my workplace that actually makes DIY juice. I've already been asked in the past "you make juice? make me some." DIY supplies are still readily available at the moment but back then even more so. I was, like, "no I wont make you some, its not that hard to do and you should learn how yourself." Back to the scenario now...that's how it might become. Do you help out you coworkers who are not really your friends anyway or become a giant a double s with a hole in the middle and say " you shoulda stocked up when ya had the chance"? If it came right down to it, tables turned, would they do the same FOR you that they're asking OF you? Most likely not, I think. "You make juice? Wontcha make me some?" makes me cringe every time I hear that.
I've always helped others with vaping with the goal of them becoming self reliant, pointing them to a brand/shop for their long term needs after getting them started. I never wanted to have them dependent on me. I've recommended basic stocking up supplies to them and most have learned to mix and are prepared.
For those who are unprepared I'd stick to "Sorry, the guy who mixes for me only helps a couple old friends as their supply is low". End of conversation.
I'm not above helping out, I'll fill a tank for someone with whatever I'm using if they ask. Been offered a few bucks for doing just that and told em to keep their money. I'm not a complete a double s. But I do have to stand with not making juice for others just because they wont try to make their own. And not to go off topic but somewhat related...just now heard on the news that the CDC has changed their warning about vaping. They are finally admitting it was black market THC vapes, especially the ones that had vitamin E oil are what caused the lung illnesses.
I dont work and I generally only vape at home. All this could change.
But if we were living in a world where the fan had been hit I would tell them it was vg and distilled water, nothing to see here, move along.
Gees - Of course I would - if I could, but all I have is "Loctite" and "Gorilla" right now. . .
However, iMHO - better then Elmers, I do have a couple of other glues, especially for gluing plastic that will make a water proof seal . . . 
Here try some . . .
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I don't get this grey/black market stuff. Like, the people who seem to think it's gonna be totally fine.
I don't believe it is illegal to possess nicotine, but if the black market arises it will be like any other market, if you aren't having a steady stream of customers (and the government has ways of finding this stuff out (AND it will be illegal to purchase THEN which you will have to REPEATEDLY rather than just buying all your nic and storing it, which some ALSO think may be a problem.
Like, YEAH maybe if you put a sign on your roof big enough for government planes to read which states "I have A LIFETIME SUPPLY OF NIC JUST WNAT YOU TO KNOW" well sorry they won't care if you shut up about it, vape your OWN nic, and stay OUT of the black market.
The government doesn't care about preppers they aren't the ones buying cigalikes anyway. They just want to make sure all the "new" smokers turn to Juul tobacco or back to cigarettes.
We are a tiny portion of the vaping world. There may be a grey/black market but sitting around WAITING for it is just SILLY in my opinion. I mean.... Things will cost more, you will have the added stress of finding it, making sure it safe etc.....
I have no love for grey/.black markets and I have experienced several from both sides. They SUCK. I don't get why ANYONE would sort of (it seems like) WANT to do this.
While I have always wanted a derringer in my garter and to be part of the ecig militia, I'm sorry. I've already experienced it and it sucks and then it REALLY sucks to get caught.
The government will be looking for larger scale suppliers than me. I'd give the husband eliquid and the kid (not that he needs it) but that is About It.
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I don't believe it is illegal to possess nicotine, but if the black market arises it will be like any other market, if you aren't having a steady stream of customers (and the government has ways of finding this stuff out (AND it will be illegal to purchase THEN which you will have to REPEATEDLY rather than just buying all your nic and storing it, which some ALSO think may be a problem.
Like, YEAH maybe if you put a sign on your roof big enough for government planes to read which states "I have A LIFETIME SUPPLY OF NIC JUST WNAT YOU TO KNOW" well sorry they won't care if you shut up about it, vape your OWN nic, and stay OUT of the black market.
The government doesn't care about preppers they aren't the ones buying cigalikes anyway. They just want to make sure all the "new" smokers turn to Juul tobacco or back to cigarettes.
We are a tiny portion of the vaping world. There may be a grey/black market but sitting around WAITING for it is just SILLY in my opinion. I mean.... Things will cost more, you will have the added stress of finding it, making sure it safe etc.....
I have no love for grey/.black markets and I have experienced several from both sides. They SUCK. I don't get why ANYONE would sort of (it seems like) WANT to do this.
While I have always wanted a derringer in my garter and to be part of the ecig militia, I'm sorry. I've already experienced it and it sucks and then it REALLY sucks to get caught.
The government will be looking for larger scale suppliers than me. I'd give the husband eliquid and the kid (not that he needs it) but that is About It.
Anna
The best thing about vaping is being able to eliminate nearly all the cost by mixing and rebuilding. It makes sense regardless of the government. Smoking a carton a week cost me $3,000 a year. That money can buy a lot of other things. These days I mix with a scale, faster, easier than graduated cylinders and beakers. Don't bother with recipies. There are plenty of all-in-one flavors available.
I know the feeling. When I smoked I was at 2 packs a day when I quit because of vaping. That would be $7300 a year now. Just imagine all the cool vape gear you could get for $7300 a year.
I have several drawers full of vape stuff and it all cost a small fraction of the $15,000 I would have spent on cigs. Go a step further. Parents who smoke the same as me x 2. The switch to vaping and mix and rebuild. Now they're saving most of $6,000 a year. That is money to provide a better life and more opportunities for their children. Ecigs are GREAT for kids.
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