Wizard Labs Nic Base Reviews

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Ya, see I keep seeing conflicting reports. Everyone says it's good (except for the mysteriously deleted/reconstructed/moved thread, shhhhh) but one says clear odorless, and another says light brown, a bit stinky but good (??!!)....I'll pass on the stinky, so for me, until I get a big thumbs up review from someone I trust that's 'been around the block', the cheap prices aren't enough to sway me. But....that's just me ;)
I haven't tried them just yet, and it was a bit because I saw the thread you referred to (btw, it was moved to the negative supplier thread here), But .. because of that same thread's good outcome and the great service I got from them on flavors, bottles, etc I'm going to give them a try pretty soon. I'm a total DIY noob and my first order to get my feet wet was for 60ml of 36mg & 60ml of 48mg with RTS. I was very satisfied with both the nic as well as the prompt shipping. Happy with both, but I'll try to post a Wizard nic report once I do my order. (I'm also a PV noob, so most of my $$ are currently going for hardware! :p )
 

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Ya, see I keep seeing conflicting reports. Everyone says it's good (except for the mysteriously deleted/reconstructed/moved thread, shhhhh) but one says clear odorless, and another says light brown, a bit stinky but good (??!!)....I'll pass on the stinky, so for me, until I get a big thumbs up review from someone I trust that's 'been around the block', the cheap prices aren't enough to sway me. But....that's just me ;)
I've got a bottle sitting here that I just haven't gotten around to opening yet. I dunno if I meet your criteria for credibility, but you'll have my candid assessment soon.
 

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I've got a bottle sitting here that I just haven't gotten around to opening yet. I dunno if I meet your criteria for credibility, but you'll have my candid assessment soon.

I would like your opinion and any one else who actually has gotten the nic particularly if you got the highest strength as thats what I buy elsewhere. I thought it was rather intriguing that they have so many options for the base ratios too.

Pana chronic I think she meant more reviews from ECF vets who have been around the block many a time with nic purchases and comparisons. There was issues with a nic supplier (not this one and I am not going to name them) a few months back so everyone is more cautious as you should be anyways when choosing a nic vendor.
 

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I've used DIY e-juice for about 3 years. But, as an obvious 'fanboy' of WizardLabs, my comments should be taken with a grain of salt.

I try and keep a 'stash' of at least a year's supply of unflavored in my freezer and have a rule to use my oldest FIFO (First In-First-Out). I ordered some from Wizard and broke that rule for one batch for the wife and I. I found it to be a very nice product. We vaped that batch for about 6 weeks and am happy with the quality (and the price :)). It's back in the freezer, and for my latest batch I went back to my FIFO rule.

In addition to getting a good price on Nicotine, you need to have faith in your supplier. Especially if you are mixing for a loved one. I TRUST John.

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I would like your opinion and any one else who actually has gotten the nic particularly if you got the highest strength as thats what I buy elsewhere. I thought it was rather intriguing that they have so many options for the base ratios too.

I ordered a fairly large batch of 60mg/ml in both 100% PG and 100% VG last week. Packing was flawless, as it really should be when you're transporting bulk nicotine. They are only the fourth nicotine vendor I've worked with, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

Their customer service has been extremely responsive. They were able to pack my order in a smaller bulk rate box than expected, and applied a partial refund against shipping nearly immediately.

What you want to hear about is the nic, obviously. I worked with it in a well-ventilated hood type area, for dilution. The liquid is extremely pale amber, nearly clear. (IMO, oxidized nic has a distinct color, and this is not it.) It appears clear at 24 mg/ml dilutions and below. The odor at high concentration was (obviously) acrid, but still pleasant; it's clear that it's an organic extraction.

I've used it in a number of recipes since receiving it, from 12-24 mg strengths. The flavor is not noticeable, even in mild creamy flavors (I've had peppery nic blow out chocolates before). Throat hit is solid without any pepperiness. My wife gets a "bleagh" response instantly to any unpleasant flavors, and has no complaints with the mixes I've used it in.

Overall my experience has been excellent. In my eyes this is a quality product at a fantastic price. Hope that helps!
 
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OK, I got around to opening and using some of the WL nic that came in a few days back.

Full disclosure: I'm not vastly experienced. I've been vaping my own, home-brew juice for only about 6 weeks (I also mix juice for 2-3 friends). This was only my third nic purchase.

I ordered 60mg strength in 100% PG. The liquid is not quite 100% clear. There is a very faint amber-yellow tinge to it. It has a very, very faint odor. Not fishy, and not "wet dog". If I had to characterize it by say it smells like something, I'd say it smells like sewing machine oil. This is only noticeable with some effort. I haven't noticed a corresponding flavor note in either of the two juices I mixed with it so far.

If there is one thing I absolutely do NOT like, it is the packaging. It comes in a wide-mouth pill bottle (I bought 120 mL). This is ......ed, IMO, because if it gets knocked over, it's gone in an instant. Also, I like to use a pediatric dosing syringe with a stepped stopper, which is obviously out of the question with this bottle. Therefore I had to transfer it to an old RTS bottle before I could use it.
 

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I purchased 60 ML of 60mg 100% pg with 60 ML of pg and 60 ML of vg. The nic does have a slight slight yellow tint. Almost clear though. No noticable odor in mine (think this is subjective such as flavor). I dropped it down to 36 mg 70/30 pg/vg for a base. I then made several batches of 24 mg 60/40 pg/vg with 2% menthol for my vape. It is clean and smooth to me all I taste is menthol. Seems good to me and I have been a MFS nic buyer in the past. The packing was outstanding in my opinion. Included a freebie flavor and some pipettes. The bottles appeared to be shatterproof pill type bottles. Bottles were sealed with skrink plastic then bubble wrapped, put in heat sealed plastic bag and then bubble wrapped again. I will be doing buisness with them again in future.

I also have to add that in the shipping notes I added a few questions. He really went out of his way to answer the questions in a timely manner via email. I think he actually cares about quality and doing a good job IMO.

Apprently he also mixes the nic on purchase so you aren't getting something from the shelf 6 months old. Which in my opinion is a good thing. That being said it did take an extra 24 hours to prepare order.

total time order to door from florida to illinois 4 days I think it was
 
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I think he even states that he ships in these bottles for safety (if I had to guess I would say it is more for cost of shipping and or cost of bottles IMO plastic is lighter then glass then again I could be 1000000% wrong here and there truely is saftey in using plastic). But he also says that it should be trasfered to glass when recieved. Which I did trasfer to glass with 0 issues.
 

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OK, I got around to opening and using some of the WL nic that came in a few days back.

Full disclosure: I'm not vastly experienced. I've been vaping my own, home-brew juice for only about 6 weeks (I also mix juice for 2-3 friends). This was only my third nic purchase.

I ordered 60mg strength in 100% PG. The liquid is not quite 100% clear. There is a very faint amber-yellow tinge to it. It has a very, very faint odor. Not fishy, and not "wet dog". If I had to characterize it by say it smells like something, I'd say it smells like sewing machine oil. This is only noticeable with some effort. I haven't noticed a corresponding flavor note in either of the two juices I mixed with it so far.

If there is one thing I absolutely do NOT like, it is the packaging. It comes in a wide-mouth pill bottle (I bought 120 mL). This is ......ed, IMO, because if it gets knocked over, it's gone in an instant. Also, I like to use a pediatric dosing syringe with a stepped stopper, which is obviously out of the question with this bottle. Therefore I had to transfer it to an old RTS bottle before I could use it.

I think I would actually like the wide bottle top because of the way I use the gloves and syringes. The RTS Vapes bottle when it gets closer to the middle to bottom I have to pour it out into a shotglass...lol and draw with the syringe from there. The most important thing is that the bottle plastic or otherwise is opaque or tinted as nic needs to stay out of the light and heat. It is normal to have the color and smell you describe especially at the higher concentrations. The more you open that same bottle the color will darken over time too. Now for the taste test....lol

PS: Even with my juice bottles I only buy the wider non childproof bottles ones now which aren't that easy to find.--- much easier for me to make a 30 or 60 ml with any size syringe that way.
 

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I think he even states that he ships in these bottles for safety (if I had to guess I would say it is more for cost of shipping and or cost of bottles IMO plastic is lighter then glass then again I could be 1000000% wrong here and there truely is saftey in using plastic). But he also says that it should be trasfered to glass when recieved. Which I did trasfer to glass with 0 issues.

Yeah I wouldn't want glass bottles mailed with nic juice. Like mentioned you can always transfer into glass bottles if that is your thing.
 

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I ordered a fairly large batch of 60mg/ml in both 100% PG and 100% VG last week. Packing was flawless, as it really should be when you're transporting bulk nicotine. They are only the fourth nicotine vendor I've worked with, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

Their customer service has been extremely responsive. They were able to pack my order in a smaller bulk rate box than expected, and applied a partial refund against shipping nearly immediately.

What you want to hear about is the nic, obviously. I worked with it in a well-ventilated hood type area, for dilution. The liquid is extremely pale amber, nearly clear. (IMO, oxidized nic has a distinct color, and this is not it.) It appears clear at 24 mg/ml dilutions and below. The odor at high concentration was (obviously) acrid, but still pleasant; it's clear that it's an organic extraction.

I've used it in a number of recipes since receiving it, from 12-24 mg strengths. The flavor is not noticeable, even in mild creamy flavors (I've had peppery nic blow out chocolates before). Throat hit is solid without any pepperiness. My wife gets a "bleagh" response instantly to any unpleasant flavors, and has no complaints with the mixes I've used it in.

Overall my experience has been excellent. In my eyes this is a quality product at a fantastic price. Hope that helps!

Good to hear. Thats what I wanted to know about how peppery is it and good to hear all of this. Sounds like he's off to a great start with his business practices. One question --what do you mean when you say its obvious that it is an organic extraction?
 

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Good to hear. Thats what I wanted to know about how peppery is it and good to hear all of this. Sounds like he's off to a great start with his business practices. One question --what do you mean when you say its obvious that it is an organic extraction?

I may have misspoken. I can't speak to the extraction process, what I was really thinking of what the sensory qualities of the liquid itself.

What I really meant was that to the senses, the liquid has a powerful smell that comes across as natural. IMO some oxidized nic smells a little like petroleum, this didn't at all. While the odor was acrid, it still smelled like it came from a plant. Hope that makes sense.

This is the kind of sensation that's very faint below, say, 24mg/ml, and I personally vape 12-18, so it's heady to me. I only really get the smell when working with partially diluted liquid at 24-36. But it's a kick in your face the difference between organic-smelling and petroleum-smelling nic at 48mg and 60mg.

All my subjective opinions, of course.
 
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