I haven't tried them just yet, and it was a bit because I saw the thread you referred to (btw, it was moved to the negative supplier thread here), But .. because of that same thread's good outcome and the great service I got from them on flavors, bottles, etc I'm going to give them a try pretty soon. I'm a total DIY noob and my first order to get my feet wet was for 60ml of 36mg & 60ml of 48mg with RTS. I was very satisfied with both the nic as well as the prompt shipping. Happy with both, but I'll try to post a Wizard nic report once I do my order. (I'm also a PV noob, so most of my $$ are currently going for hardware!Ya, see I keep seeing conflicting reports. Everyone says it's good (except for the mysteriously deleted/reconstructed/moved thread, shhhhh) but one says clear odorless, and another says light brown, a bit stinky but good (??!!)....I'll pass on the stinky, so for me, until I get a big thumbs up review from someone I trust that's 'been around the block', the cheap prices aren't enough to sway me. But....that's just me![]()