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IDK I think that guy (overall) is better than the juul ad. She looks like she's being sucked into some sort of internal vortex, somehow. Some sort of "subliminal juul... we gots the tightest draw around!" type thing. Like, if she kept vaping she'd like disappear into a black hole or something.

If the government were intelligent, they'd FORCE Juul to use that ad, is how I see it. At least the doorknob dude is like, vaguely human and it sort of makes me think of that episode of Stargate where like, they connected the wormhole to a world that was being sucked into a black hole and I did not care much for THAT episode, it made me think too hard, especially about the team who were "running" toward the gate in ultra slow motion and what THEY were thinking.

But, that Stargate episode at least had more logical consistency than the government. I think on that we can all agree.

I am of the firm belief that Bill and Hillary are not related, not by marriage, not by SPECIES even. They're both not human, but very different from each other.

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This is one thing that will never be said of you: "Her opinion have no strong colors, only vapid pastels".


IDK I think that guy (overall) is better than the Juul ad. She looks like she's being sucked into some sort of internal vortex, somehow. Some sort of "subliminal JUUL... we gots the tightest draw around!" type thing. Like, if she kept vaping she'd like disappear into a black hole or something.

If the government were intelligent, they'd FORCE Juul to use that ad, is how I see it. At least the doorknob dude is like, vaguely human and it sort of makes me think of that episode of Stargate where like, they connected the wormhole to a world that was being sucked into a black hole and I did not care much for THAT episode, it made me think too hard, especially about the team who were "running" toward the gate in ultra slow motion and what THEY were thinking.

But, that Stargate episode at least had more logical consistency than the government. I think on that we can all agree.

I am of the firm belief that Bill and Hillary are not related, not by marriage, not by SPECIES even. They're both not human, but very different from each other.

Anna
 
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When Michael Jackson got paid to do a Pepsi commercial I thought "pffft, nobody's going to drink Pepsi because of that stupid comercial".

But shortly after Pepsi over took Coca Cola in sales. The Pespsi slot at the high school was chronically empty as every pimple faced one glove wearin' moon walker had a can of Pepsi in their hand.

The gimmickrey works and big advertising knows it. (I was underground so I drank Dr. Pepper back then.)

My grandmother was from the Coca Cola generation and would always ask "want a Coke?"... Now she'd come back from the kitchen with orange, grape, RC or anything but Coca Cola. Yet all the ads in her favorite magazines like Good House Keeping bombarding her over the years had her using that word. And when Kool Aid first arrived she'd say "don't you know that stuff will put a hole in your stomach?"... a long time myth about Coca Cola....

Juul is now a billion $ enterprise and those dollars can afford to pay the best advertizers who can sell ice cubes to Eskimoes who gladly buy them because they saw somebody appealing doing it.

As a lad I never smoked Camels while watching Jeremy McGrath dominate another race in Camel Supercross. I smoked Merits because they gave away better swag. I saw my teenage nephews become walking billboards for Marlboro from those 'miles' they used to put on packs. Yet as an adult I smoked those fruit flavored Camels when you could buy them. The kids were buying them for the fruity flavor then using the metal tin to stash their 'doobies' in.....
 
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Aww man remember the Marlboro man catalogue? How everyone wanted the leather jacket and whatnot? LOL, I think we still have a Marlboro dart board around somewhere.

Look mass marketing works. For one thing, how can you covet something that does not exist?

But the black market teen underground is a Whole Nother Story.

I think teens and young adults, for example, are responsible for like, 90% of the clove cigarette consumption in the land. And, it's certainly not the taste. I mean, you can like, drive OTHERS from you and do other suspicious things.

Seriously if there's an ADULT clove smoker out there who started as an ADULT, I want to hear your story. I bet there's something amiss about you, too.

LOL, I guess pretty soon here I need to bathe and do yoga and etc. Me and my non pastel like, opinions can leave you all alone....

But yeah, I'm more Picasso than Thomas Kinkade I'm afraid, which is fine by me, he was a TOTAL crook by the end, he had "journeyman painters" (I don't know what else to call them, students maybe) copy his style and dot a few brush strokes here and there, like, and sell them as originals.

Poor form if you ask me. Much like the government.

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When Michael Jackson got paid to do a Pepsi commercial I thought "pffft, nobody's going to drink Pepsi because of that stupid comercial".

But shortly after Pepsi over took Coca Cola in sales. The Pespsi slot at the high school was chronically empty as every pimple faced one glove wearin' moon walker had a can of Pepsi in their hand.

The gimmickrey works and big advertising knows it. (I was underground so I drank Dr. Pepper back then.)

I have never understood how "famous advertising" works on others, but it certainly has never worked on me. I HATE Pepsi, and it doesn't matter how cool or famous a person is that they get to shill for it, it isn't going to make it taste any better. I can't stand Budweiser so it isn't going to matter how hot the chick is drinking it or pouring it all over herself in a commercial, it is still going to taste bad, so I am not going to buy it. Advertising only lets me know a product exists, it has never made me buy something, anything, that I didn't REALLY want or need.

Then again, I have always been pretty tight with my money. I would rather save up and buy big nice things I really want or need, rather than a whole lot of cheap trash that I don't.
 

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Aww man remember the Marlboro man catalogue? How everyone wanted the leather jacket and whatnot? LOL, I think we still have a Marlboro dart board around somewhere.

Look mass marketing works. For one thing, how can you covet something that does not exist?

But the black market teen underground is a Whole Nother Story.

I think teens and young adults, for example, are responsible for like, 90% of the clove cigarette consumption in the land. And, it's certainly not the taste. I mean, you can like, drive OTHERS from you and do other suspicious things.

Seriously if there's an ADULT clove smoker out there who started as an ADULT, I want to hear your story. I bet there's something amiss about you, too.

Heh I still have a Marlboro beach towel and a big camping backpack from those miles, and I didn't even smoke back then. I just happened to work in a store that sold them and I had to break down LOTS of 2 Packs into singles and the outer packaging I was to throw away also had miles on them.

I didn't actually start smoking until I was 24 but I had "tried" them and had a puff here and there since about 18. Only tried cloves once and hated them, that ONE made my lungs hurt.
 

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Advertising only lets me know a product exists, it has never made me buy something, anything, that I didn't REALLY want or need.
It really is only meant to do that (the "I exist" part). Ads are aimed at you getting familiar with certain names, designs and colors, sometimes coupled to a feeling/atmosphere. That can (but doesn't have to) lead you to buy something if you're not really thinking about it, brainfart/don't really care/don't pay attention or are in a hurry. This small thing seems to be worth the investment, they pay money and sales go up.
That's also where the "there's no bad publicity" statement comes from (though there certainly is a threshold that can be crossed).

The "people watch a clip/see a poster and instantly want to buy the product" thing is a myth, I think only a complete bellend would do that :D
 

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I have never understood how "famous advertising" works on others, but it certainly has never worked on me. I HATE Pepsi, and it doesn't matter how cool or famous a person is that they get to shill for it, it isn't going to make it taste any better. I can't stand Budweiser so it isn't going to matter how hot the chick is drinking it or pouring it all over herself in a commercial, it is still going to taste bad, so I am not going to buy it. Advertising only lets me know a product exists, it has never made me buy something, anything, that I didn't REALLY want or need.

Then again, I have always been pretty tight with my money. I would rather save up and buy big nice things I really want or need, rather than a whole lot of cheap trash that I don't.
I dunno ScottP. If I am really thirsty for a beer and the best they have is a Budweiser, I am probably not going to say no. But no, not anywhere my favorite beer whatsoever. Isn't Budweiser a corn based beer? Yeah I don't have it a lot.

A hot chick? Well that is a plus. But what gets me is when a women has that seductive smile with that little girl giggle. My brain says no and knows better but the rest of my body says YES! Luckily commercialism hasn't used that giggle much at all. If they figure that one out I might be screwed for the rest of my life. :(
 
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I think some spokespersons can actually TURN YOU OFF stuff. The Jenny McCarthy Vuse or Blu commercial, well if I could remember which one it was, I would have immediately flushed whatever it was, down the toilet. Since I don't do cigslikes, I was just sort of generally disgusted.

A lot of brands, it's familiarity. I drank a lot of diet coke in college and now I drink diet pepsi, mainly because I think it tastes better and like, well, I don't like NutraSweet.

But for household stuff, unless it's something new, I think folks can get like brand loyalty and that's it.

I have no clue how advertising works, but I will say every last "as seen on TV product does NOT work as advertised. I am still tempted from time to time even though..... I mean the ped egg sort of works but EWWWWWWW do you really want to collect and then discard your foot callus shavings? If you have THAT BAD a foot callus problem that's what pedicures are for. Let a stranger deal with that hot mess, is what I say, and I say if that person is not (or pretends not to be) fluent in English, so much the better.

I was deeply disappointed as well by the "rub your hair off your body" as seen on TV system, and I have a fine motor tremor so shaving SUCKS. It was all advertised like, rubbing some manly chest hair off some very hairy dude. It did not work even SLIGHTLY.

Again, (if I ever get the money for it) am gonna get that electrolysis thing done, and ONLY because of society's expectations I don't so much care that I have genetic (all my sibs have it) spider bug hairs on my lower shins. I just know everyone ELSE would care. It sucks.

I apologize for this post, I think I am slightly delirious. But, advertising must work for SOME things and for me, it's "as seen on TV" stuff. So they must be doing something right. I know it's a lie, but I have to CHECK. LOL.

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They aim TV ads at the audience they know watches a particular show. Back in the 90's I used to watch reruns of Dallas at 11.00 right before I went to bed and on every break there was an ad for something called the Wonder Sponge. It was a dishwashing sponge. Instead of being rectangular the long sides were concave which was supposed to make it easier to hold. They rolled out a bunch of "ordinary people" who gushed about how great the Wonder Sponge was. I would never have believed that a different shape would make SUCH a difference, but Wow, it's just so much better.

One night I suddenly realized I was part of the demographic that was likely to fall for this nonsense and I cringed. Had to stop watching Dallas after that.

A few days back I read a piece called "40 things only Boomers think are cool". Cringed again. I liked almost all of them.

I'm sure Juul ads aren't targeted at people like most of us here. The fact that we don't get a buzz out of them probably says more about us than about the ads. Their target audience might snap to attention when they see them. Probably ads could be targeted at teens without us even realizing it. The folks who build ads know what teens will respond to, and it might not be stuff we would think of as teen orientated. Might not be the case with Juul, but maybe it is. The Ad business is pretty sophisticated.
 

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Clearly Marketed Towards Kids Cliff said...

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Clearly Marketed Towards Kids Cliff said...
Clearly. Everyone knows adults only like old socks soaked in vinegar and sauerkraut juice with a hint of wet dog.

If they get too used to flavors other than tobacco they might never go back to smoking cigarettes.
 

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Clearly. Everyone knows adults only like old socks soaked in vinegar and sauerkraut juice with a hint of wet dog.

If they get too used to flavors other than tobacco they might never go back to smoking cigarettes.

Totally agree!!

Colors too.. I get so sick of colors. Everyone knows colors are only enjoyed by kids.
Give me black and white everything at all times. Such an eyesore! :-x
 
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They aim TV ads at the audience they know watches a particular show. Back in the 90's I used to watch reruns of Dallas at 11.00 right before I went to bed and on every break there was an ad for something called the Wonder Sponge. It was a dishwashing sponge. Instead of being rectangular the long sides were concave which was supposed to make it easier to hold. They rolled out a bunch of "ordinary people" who gushed about how great the Wonder Sponge was. I would never have believed that a different shape would make SUCH a difference, but Wow, it's just so much better.

One night I suddenly realized I was part of the demographic that was likely to fall for this nonsense and I cringed. Had to stop watching Dallas after that.

That's why 99.9% of what I watch is commercial free. I have Amazon Prime, plus a free (shared) Netflix and I record a lot of OTA stuff (via HD antenna) on a media server using PVR software with a post processing tool that auto-removes commercials from the recordings.
 

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