Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch - Part Seven

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A flash of brilliance: The 11th Hour With Brian Williams comes on at 11 pm ET. That makes it the 12th hour. It's only the 11th hour in the Central Time Zone, where it starts at 10 pm, the beginning of the 11th hour.

I watched a short YouTube video where somebody asked Alexa to tell a joke. I didn't hear the punchline because my Alexa was listening and she told a joke at the same time.
 

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A flash of brilliance: The 11th Hour With Brian Williams comes on at 11 pm ET. That makes it the 12th hour. It's only the 11th hour in the Central Time Zone, where it starts at 10 pm, the beginning of the 11th hour.

I watched a short YouTube video where somebody asked Alexa to tell a joke. I didn't hear the punchline because my Alexa was listening and she told a joke at the same time.
Yeah one of mine we'll be watching something on TV and she hears something and pipes up and says I don't know that. Strange.
 

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I have questions about NetFlix, and I know that some of you are subscribers. I signed up for my trial month yesterday, through DishTv, and I'm liking it.

I presume it's coming over my satellite dish rather than streaming through my wi-fi, because my wi-fi is not fast enough to support the uninterrupted HD picture that I'm getting. Am I correct about that? The reason I ask is because it looks like the billing will be separate from my DishTv bill, which causes me to wonder a little.
 

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Netflix is it's own subscription, although you may (likely) have a promo from Dish. So yes, separate billing.

It may or may not come down from the sky. We had Netflix before we got our semi-conscious set, running through a Roku box, and it did use our wifi and dsl - our superfast 1.5 M out in the sticks DSL ;) and had no problems. That was NOT HD, however.

Now, with the same DSL and Dish and SCset, still no problems, and it IS HD. But.

My hunch is that it has to go via your wifi. It would take a lot of bandwidth on the satellite to have a discrete channel for each subscriber.
 

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My hunch is that it has to go via your wifi. It would take a lot of bandwidth on the satellite to have a discrete channel for each subscriber.
Alternate theory: NetFlix pays Dish enough to make it worthwhile. It is necessity which forces me to entertain this alternate theory, because unless NetFlix uses a technology which is multiples better than any other provider of streaming video, this picture I'm seeing, with no glitches, could not possibly be carried on my really slow hi-speed internet.

I wonder if we're talking the same language regarding download speed. My service is purported to be 10 Mbps, but my typical speed is slower than that. Currently, it's 5.68 Mbps, which is not nearly fast enough to support HD streaming. 10 Mbps is the absolute slowest DSL speed offered by CenturyLink, and I believe that there is no internet provider who offers slower DSL. Since I can't get dependable, continuous streaming with 5.68 Mbps, my NetFlix can't be streaming. I don't see how you're able to get good streaming at 1.5 Mbps... I know I can't.
 

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@bigbells . . .

If Ya' have a "Smart" TV / or some other device (Roku/Apple TV, etc.) connected to your TV - NetFlix will stream via your WiFi connection . . . Or it can also be stream on your laptop/computer/smartphone too . . . It really doesn't need fast, just a really good-excellent connection to your router/home network . . . In addition, you can connect/register up to 6 different devices on one account and you may stream up to two (2) movies or TV shows at the same time by default too . . . Which would come in handy if Ya' & Ginny wanted to watch different shows/movies or where in seperate rooms . . . Just Sayin' . . . ;)

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No Ginny here... she's with Legs. Please don't feel bad... making such mistakes is part of your initiation, and we're happy to have you!

My Internet connection is NOT capable of dependable streaming to my large-screen Smart TV. This has been true for years. There are times when my Internet is good enough to stream to my large-screen TV, but not steadily or dependably. Much less bandwidth is used streaming to my 15" laptop or my 27" desktop, but those are also subject to regular interruptions. Even my 6" smart phone suffers glitches, but the smaller the screen the more dependable the stream.

Ah, this is silly. I will unplug my Internet, then see if the NetFlix that I'm watching comes to a stop. I'm betting there's no way it will stop because it HAS to be coming through the satellite to be so good. It will be a few minutes before I'm able to report the results because it takes a couple a few for my Internet to re-connect after disconnection. See ya on the other side of the experiment!
 

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Well, I'll be hornswoggled! NetFlix is streaming through my Internet connection rather than coming over the satellite. It continued to work for a couple of minutes after I unplugged my router, but then it stopped. Color me scratching my head.
 

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Kinda what I thought, Bells. I wonder if Netflix checks available speed and automatically goes to lower rez? For us - and it really IS 1.5 M, typical d/l around 1.4 from various test sites - while we can stream Netflix fine, if we try to stream VOD from Dish, it's a no go.
 

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Well I'll jump in here, I've heard for HD streaming you should have at least 25mbps. I have 40 and that's what I get when I do a speed test it is usually in the 38 to 42 range and works very good. Amazon for some reason uses more data then Netflix and an Android box running Kodi or a Fork is a heavy user also. I can get 60 now but I see no reason. Everything works fine at 40. To get that with DSL I have 2 separate DSL lines coming into to the modem each carrying 20mbps and the modem joins them. This is all Century Link. Sorry that is for 4K you need a minimum of 25mbps. More is better and I have super bandwidth running 2 Roku,Android,1 smart tv 2 cell phones, printer 2 computers. Netflix does use less data then others and I think the recommend 20 for 4k. I do have all my boxes and box built in to tv hard wired to the modem but computers, phones and printer are WiFi I do have a Netgear extender upstairs which is ok, get around 20 out of it not great but sufficient.
 
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Have any of you had involuntary movement of you hand/arms. Ginny has been getting it really bad at times. She spills her coffee on average of 3 times a week. Going to get her a Tommy Tipee Cup. It gets really bad, we both had them before but with the chemo it has gotten really bad.
 

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Well I'll jump in here, I've heard for HD streaming you should have at least 25mbps. I have 40 and that's what I get when I do a speed test it is usually in the 38 to 42 range and works very good. Amazon for some reason uses more data then Netflix and an Android box running Kodi or a Fork is a heavy user also.
Legs, I couldn't believe it could be true, but Netflix does great with my <10 Mbps speed and it does great with David Ock's even slower speed. The only other stuff I can stream well is Amazon Prime, but Netflix does considerably better than Prime. I was a total non-believer just half a day ago but now I've seen the light.

I've observed a couple of things that seem to make Netflix completely different from other "channels":
1. I can only "rewind" to the beginning of a show or movie. If I want to go back a few seconds or a minute because I missed something, I'm plumb out of luck.
2. I can't "record" Netflix on my DishTV DVR. I haven't checked to see if it's possible for me to record by using my non-Dish recorder because I don't have it wired in to my system.

It seems logical that the two things above contribute to NetFlix making more efficient than other services at using bandwidth. There was a third thing as well, but I can't remember what it is.

Movie Review: Despicable Me 3, 2017. Fairly entertaining animated comedy. Not suitable for young children, in my opinion.
 

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Have any of you had involuntary movement of you hand/arms. Ginny has been getting it really bad at times. She spills her coffee on average of 3 times a week. Going to get her a Tommy Tipee Cup. It gets really bad, we both had them before but with the chemo it has gotten really bad.
Probanly a side effect of one of the drugs. She should tell the Dr.

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Have any of you had involuntary movement of you hand/arms. Ginny has been getting it really bad at times. She spills her coffee on average of 3 times a week. Going to get her a Tommy Tipee Cup. It gets really bad, we both had them before but with the chemo it has gotten really bad.
Probanly a side effect of one of the drugs. She should tell the Dr.

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Agree. And as soon as possible.
1. I can only "rewind" to the beginning of a show or movie. If I want to go back a few seconds or a minute because I missed something, I'm plumb out of luck.
That may only be because of your slower bandwidth or something. I can go back or forward however far I want.
 

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Legs, I couldn't believe it could be true, but Netflix does great with my <10 Mbps speed and it does great with David Ock's even slower speed. The only other stuff I can stream well is Amazon Prime, but Netflix does considerably better than Prime. I was a total non-believer just half a day ago but now I've seen the light.

I've observed a couple of things that seem to make Netflix completely different from other "channels":
1. I can only "rewind" to the beginning of a show or movie. If I want to go back a few seconds or a minute because I missed something, I'm plumb out of luck.
2. I can't "record" Netflix on my DishTV DVR. I haven't checked to see if it's possible for me to record by using my non-Dish recorder because I don't have it wired in to my system.

It seems logical that the two things above contribute to NetFlix making more efficient than other services at using bandwidth. There was a third thing as well, but I can't remember what it is.

Movie Review: Despicable Me 3, 2017. Fairly entertaining animated comedy. Not suitable for young children, in my opinion.
Yep I think Netflix says it will stream at 5. I don't know how you could record to your DVR tho.

I've also heard that Prime uses a lot more data then Netflix for some reason but I also agree that your speed is the culprit for not being able to go back or forward just a little.

I know there are workarounds for recording from a box be it Netflix or Kodi cause guys do it. From Kodi I know it is illegal not sure about Netflix tho.
 

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Legs, I couldn't believe it could be true, but Netflix does great with my <10 Mbps speed and it does great with David Ock's even slower speed. The only other stuff I can stream well is Amazon Prime, but Netflix does considerably better than Prime. I was a total non-believer just half a day ago but now I've seen the light.

I've observed a couple of things that seem to make Netflix completely different from other "channels":
1. I can only "rewind" to the beginning of a show or movie. If I want to go back a few seconds or a minute because I missed something, I'm plumb out of luck.
2. I can't "record" Netflix on my DishTV DVR. I haven't checked to see if it's possible for me to record by using my non-Dish recorder because I don't have it wired in to my system.

It seems logical that the two things above contribute to NetFlix making more efficient than other services at using bandwidth. There was a third thing as well, but I can't remember what it is.

Movie Review: Despicable Me 3, 2017. Fairly entertaining animated comedy. Not suitable for young children, in my opinion.
Why record anything on Netflix. You can go back & rewatch anytime. If you stop Netflix in the middle of something just go back h it will pick up where you left off.

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