Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch - Part Seven

[Bea-FL]

The 5 stages of grief and loss are:
1. Denial and isolation;
2. Anger;
3. Bargaining;
4. Depression;
5. Acceptance.

People who are grieving do not necessarily go through the stages in the same order or experience all of them.

and sometimes after the initial process, these stages repeat but not in the same order. I should know…

 

[MikeE3]

That's ok as long as it's because you're at the hospital.

Which is where I've been all day. MIL took a fall early this AM, 4 broken bones. (She's 96) Just recently back from there, surgery likely tomorrow - still waiting on word.Wish us luck!

Oh no! Best wishes, for sure, that she gets 'fixed up' and on the mend.

 

[Janet H]

That's ok as long as it's because you're at the hospital.

Which is where I've been all day. MIL took a fall early this AM, 4 broken bones. (She's 96) Just recently back from there, surgery likely tomorrow - still waiting on word.Wish us luck!

My goodness, 4 breaks? That must have been some fall. I hope all goes well for her tomorrow and that she's at least being kept comfortable.

 

[2legsshrt]

I don't know what to do. It's like I'm losing my mind. I can't seem to get things straight in my head. It's scaring the hell out of me. I don't know what is wrong but it's hard to explain. I'm trying to do things that I have been doing for years but I've suddenly forgot how to do them. I don't know what is going on but something is wrong in my head. I don't know what but it's not right. I've been trying to get things done like paying bills which I do every month but can't remember how to do them. Ever since I got out of the nursing home it's like I'm lost. Nothing seems right. I'm scared, I don't know what is happening to me. Ginny noticed it first but now I am noticing it. I can't get my head together. I just can't get things straight in my head. I don't know how to do things I've always done. It is a scary feeling not knowing whats wrong but knowing something is. It's like I'm going thru the motions but things just aren't what they were. I'm scared to death that something is wrong with me. I've tried to recognize what it is but it's now working. I don't know what to do. Who do I talk to. I tried to pay the bills but can't remeber how I did it. It seemed to happen kind of quickly but. I'm not thinking straight enough to accomplish what I need to do. I'm not imagining this things are just not familiar like they should be. It is really really scaring me. I just seem to be lost in my life. It sounds crazy and that may be happening. I don't know why or how This is happening but it is. I just want to go back where things made sense. I just don't know what is happening to me. But it is. I thinking I'm losing it and it doesn't feel good.

 

[DancingHeretik]

@2legsshrt
Have the doctor check you for the possibility of a stroke. Of course, it could also just be a result of anesthesia or of shock to the body of all the trauma you've had.

 

[DavidOck]

Didn't Ginny take you to the doc / hospital today? Heck, start with your PCP, who has your history.

 

[DavidOck]

My goodness, 4 breaks? That must have been some fall. I hope all goes well for her tomorrow and that she's at least being kept comfortable.

Seems her bones are so gone they don't think repairs would hold, if she made it through the surgeries on three joints. So "best" treatment is to let them knit as much as they can, followed by lengthy PT and rehab. The prognosis, with or without repairs, is that she'll not be walking again. Why risk the knife to maybe get the same result? So that's the current method of attack. Unfortunately she's a feisty Aquarian and will hate losing her "independence." (She finally gave up her DL at 93 (thank you! ) and still regrets that. (We don't )

 

[Vape?]

Hi people.
I was just peeking in, but the posts don’t seem to be in order. The years jump around like crazy. I was just going to ask if what is available in the USA has changed, and see if everyone is ok. I’ve been ordering from New Zealand, found a good one.
Love to all, great thanks for long distance sorting out my vaping needs. Now, I’ve got my son vaping, yay, working on my daughter. She has a few more serious issues to take care of, so I’m not pushing it too hard. But my disease progression has definitely slowed down, since my switch. I was supposed to be gone by now....
Vape?

 

[Janet H]

I don't know what to do. It's like I'm losing my mind. I can't seem to get things straight in my head. It's scaring the hell out of me. I don't know what is wrong but it's hard to explain. I'm trying to do things that I have been doing for years but I've suddenly forgot how to do them. I don't know what is going on but something is wrong in my head. I don't know what but it's not right. I've been trying to get things done like paying bills which I do every month but can't remember how to do them. Ever since I got out of the nursing home it's like I'm lost. Nothing seems right. I'm scared, I don't know what is happening to me. Ginny noticed it first but now I am noticing it. I can't get my head together. I just can't get things straight in my head. I don't know how to do things I've always done. It is a scary feeling not knowing whats wrong but knowing something is. It's like I'm going thru the motions but things just aren't what they were. I'm scared to death that something is wrong with me. I've tried to recognize what it is but it's now working. I don't know what to do. Who do I talk to. I tried to pay the bills but can't remeber how I did it. It seemed to happen kind of quickly but. I'm not thinking straight enough to accomplish what I need to do. I'm not imagining this things are just not familiar like they should be. It is really really scaring me. I just seem to be lost in my life. It sounds crazy and that may be happening. I don't know why or how This is happening but it is. I just want to go back where things made sense. I just don't know what is happening to me. But it is. I thinking I'm losing it and it doesn't feel good.

Patrick, I thought Ginny was taking you to the hospital to get checked out? What happened?

 

[Janet H]

Double post

 

[Janet H]

Hi people.
I was just peeking in, but the posts don’t seem to be in order. The years jump around like crazy. I was just going to ask if what is available in the USA has changed, and see if everyone is ok. I’ve been ordering from New Zealand, found a good one.
Love to all, great thanks for long distance sorting out my vaping needs. Now, I’ve got my son vaping, yay, working on my daughter. She has a few more serious issues to take care of, so I’m not pushing it too hard. But my disease progression has definitely slowed down, since my switch. I was supposed to be gone by now....
Vape?

Hello Vape. Glad you were able to find what you need in New Zealand. I hope your son and maybe your daughter will enjoy the vaping experience. It's nice that you'll be able to help guide them. Sounds like your health is doing better so that's great to hear and I hope you continue to improve.

 

[2legsshrt]

I have a major sodium problem very low and I guess that will do it. I had some clarity this morning and paid the last of the bills that I couldn't yesterday

 

[Kenna]

My problem with reading is slightly different. Some writers use so many characters, I can't keep up with them. I used to page back to see who they were; now, I just keep cruising along. Maybe I just read out of habit, now days.

Yes! The Fire & Ice (Game of Thrones) series is like that. Plus it's midevil fantasy, so all the names are spelled strangely, & figuring out how to pronounce them isn't always easy. But if I don't figure it out I just end up calling them all Joe. That doesn't work when Joe is talking to Joe. Or worse, Joe just killed off Joe & then here comes Joe to avenge Joe. Blah blah doesn't work either. And the Scottish accent! Grrrr. George R R Martin has several series, & he an excellent story teller & conveys a story well, but those names! Phonics works for me.....

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[2legsshrt]

Patrick, I thought Ginny was taking you to the hospital to get checked out? What happened?

Me I didn't want to go. I never thought the low sodium could do so much. It has been low for at least a couple of years but never thought anything about it, especially not enough to make it so I couldn't function. But I guess it can when it is this low and the surgery put me over the edge like it has. I don't have anyone else to talk about this with like I can with you guys. Talk about airing your dirty laundry.

 

[FranC]

Me I didn't want to go. I never thought the low sodium could do so much. It has been low for at least a couple of years but never thought anything about it, especially not enough to make it so I couldn't function. But I guess it can when it is this low and the surgery put me over the edge like it has. I don't have anyone else to talk about this with like I can with you guys. Talk about airing your dirty laundry.

Sooooo,what are you doing to raise your sodium level?

 

[Kenna]

Pat,

When I was younger, I thought of suicide A LOT. The main thing that kept me from doing it was my kids and the fact that they needed me. And that the people that would end up raising them if I was gone, were totally incapable of doing a competent job.

The main idea that I used to help me cope with sticking it out was:

Pretend to yourself that you already did it. It's over. All the pressure, all the depression, all the problems are over.

Then all that's left is a chance to start again. Why not see what you can do with a second chance?!

You have Ginny, your children, your grandchildren, and us to try to live for. There are reasons to try for a second chance! And there are things you can do to try to make it work. Whether therapy, calling for help from the medical community or from family (maybe even moving in with family?), or just little things like practicing gratitude for the little things (like running water, refrigeration, the internet, the simple beauty all around you, and of course family.

Why not try to start over? Pretend it's a fresh start!

Amen! A reboot!

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[Kenna]

I just hurt so much but I don't want to get stuck back in the hospital. Would rather just live with it at home come wht may. I don't think anything is getting better just slightly less pain. I can't stop thinking about how I'm feeling. I just want to go to sleep. I don't know how much more I can bare tho. Everyone is writing me saying how much they love me. Now if I just felt the same way about myself, but I don't. I don't want to live a life that around every corner is more falling and hurting. I hurt so much mentally and physically that it is just miserable. I start getting over one thing and another rears its ugly head. I don't know how much more I can take. I was able to stand up and use the commode. I am still not right from the lat hospital and home stay. I don't want to be there again, I cant be there again. I guess I'm paying back all the breaks I have gotten thru the years. I just want to feel better for more then a week but it doesn't seem possible. Here I go again on the pity pot. Why douldn't I jsut be normal for a while. I really appreciate all you guys concern but I feel it is wasted on me.1 week of good and 2 months of bad just makes it worse. I'm trusting that what I say here stays here. I don't want people to feel sorry for me. I eon't know if I can feel happy again.

You need to talk to the Dr, or have Ginny do it. Pain can be dealt with. Depression can be dealt with.

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[Kenna]

That's ok as long as it's because you're at the hospital.

Which is where I've been all day. MIL took a fall early this AM, 4 broken bones. (She's 96) Just recently back from there, surgery likely tomorrow - still waiting on word.Wish us luck!

Oh that's rough! I'll do my thing!

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[misswish1]

Seems her bones are so gone they don't think repairs would hold, if she made it through the surgeries on three joints. So "best" treatment is to let them knit as much as they can, followed by lengthy PT and rehab. The prognosis, with or without repairs, is that she'll not be walking again. Why risk the knife to maybe get the same result? So that's the current method of attack. Unfortunately she's a feisty Aquarian and will hate losing her "independence." (She finally gave up her DL at 93 (thank you! ) and still regrets that. (We don't )

I'm sorry to hear this, David. It is so hard for the feisty ones. Mine has always been an energizer bunny, but osteoporosis has caught up to her. Vertebra are starting to compress/collapse, not much can be done. She's 88, gave up driving 2 years ago after a heart attack (with much encouragement). Hugs for your Mom and prayers.

 

[Kenna]

I don't know what to do. It's like I'm losing my mind. I can't seem to get things straight in my head. It's scaring the hell out of me. I don't know what is wrong but it's hard to explain. I'm trying to do things that I have been doing for years but I've suddenly forgot how to do them. I don't know what is going on but something is wrong in my head. I don't know what but it's not right. I've been trying to get things done like paying bills which I do every month but can't remember how to do them. Ever since I got out of the nursing home it's like I'm lost. Nothing seems right. I'm scared, I don't know what is happening to me. Ginny noticed it first but now I am noticing it. I can't get my head together. I just can't get things straight in my head. I don't know how to do things I've always done. It is a scary feeling not knowing whats wrong but knowing something is. It's like I'm going thru the motions but things just aren't what they were. I'm scared to death that something is wrong with me. I've tried to recognize what it is but it's now working. I don't know what to do. Who do I talk to. I tried to pay the bills but can't remeber how I did it. It seemed to happen kind of quickly but. I'm not thinking straight enough to accomplish what I need to do. I'm not imagining this things are just not familiar like they should be. It is really really scaring me. I just seem to be lost in my life. It sounds crazy and that may be happening. I don't know why or how This is happening but it is. I just want to go back where things made sense. I just don't know what is happening to me. But it is. I thinking I'm losing it and it doesn't feel good.

It sounds like the anesthesia really effected you. Did you read the articles Uncle shared? They will really help you understand what's going on & should help ease your anxiety. I went thru the same thing, Legs. It takes some time to wear off at our ages. It will come back, but please talk to your Dr about all this. They'll know what to do to help you. It's not anything you did. It's not the Universe or God out to get you. It's a reaction to the drugs inclufing the low sodium. You haven't been getting the right nutrition for your body in a long time. And it will go away with some time. Let Ginny or your kids handle the bills for awhile.

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