Please, don't vape where you can't smoke

[NCC]

Smoking is expressly prohibited on my job site. It is allowed outside.

I vape indoors. My boss has caught me in the act a bunch of times since I started vaping, seven months ago.

They are really only concerned about the fire hazard which smoking cigarettes presents.

My boss probably enjoys the increased productivity brought about by my not sneaking outdoors a couple of times to get my fix.

 

[xg4bx]

Since I've been using my pv regularly I still treat it like a cigarette. When I'm walking around the food store I never felt the urge to smoke so why would I suddenly feel the need to vape? I'm not such an addict that I constantly need nicotine wherever I go.

Personally I simply don't want to see peoples addictions. I don't want to see them walking around spitting their chew into a water bottle, I don't want to see them constantly chewing gum like a cow, I don't want to see them luxuriously eating a hamburger and I don't need to see them vape. Maybe I'm just an anti-social misanthrope but I just think it's tacky.

 

[LowThudd]

Since I've been using my pv regularly I still treat it like a cigarette. When I'm walking around the food store I never felt the urge to smoke so why would I suddenly feel the need to vape? I'm not such an addict that I constantly need nicotine wherever I go.

Personally I simply don't want to see peoples addictions. I don't want to see them walking around spitting their chew into a water bottle, I don't want to see them constantly chewing gum like a cow, I don't want to see them luxuriously eating a hamburger and I don't need to see them vape. Maybe I'm just an anti-social misanthrope but I just think it's tacky.

Does that include caffinated beverages? I find I have to be tolerant of alot of behaviors I see people doing in public, I just don't worry to much about what they happen to be injesting, with the obvious exceptions of alcohol and like intoxicants(which is against the law to do in public).

 

[yawppy]

A noob here, (Heck still awaiting the arrival of the infamous... wait for it... wait... ah you all already can guess!)

So was explaing this to my wife who quit analogs a year or so ago (Congrats to her), how ever I like to smoke, addicted yes, but still just love it. Any rate getting off topic. I was explaing this e cig to her, and her first words out were " Just do'nt urk anyone off please?"

I have a very very deep hatred towards the NON SMOKER now, as in life there are NON SMOKERS and there are non smokers, and I HATE NON SMOKERS to the core of my being.

What appeals to me about this vaping, oh so many levels, the underground aspect, the flavors, the gadgets.. loving it, but like the OP says, negative NON SMOKE FOOLS , will place a kabash on this soon enough, (I'm already buy as much as I can, NIC JUICE and E-cigs) because the tax man is going to get VERY UPSET, after all that $5 for every analog pack I used to give him, will add up to millions, so yep, UNCLE SAM will get his $$, one way or the other.

Vaping is safer, but he do not care, as long as he get's his filthy grubby hands on our hard earned dollars, so yep they are on to it, and they are on it like white on rice.

As I said earlier, I Despise the NON SMOKERS, and would love to just shove this in their faces, and yes, I am sure there will be a time where I will want to do so badly, but will abstain as hard as it will be.

Truth is, I have no issue with no smoke areas, but feel smokers deserve rights to smoke. As I believe that this new technology should be left alone, will I Vape at a hospital, even a restaurant, probably not, at an airport, it's murdurous to have to get thru security twice, (Done It been there) So if some poor soul pops into the rest room, freaks out, well, why is he peeping thru my stall door for?

I have seen how the "scared" public behaves when a suspicious activity transpires before them, via a hobby of mine Geocaching. Stealth is key! Education is also key!

While this is hopfuly not going to turn into the 1920's prohibition, it sure is feeling as such, I agree with OP, but it will be very hard to abstain from it, but I will to the best of my ability. All the while hoping we kick them butts off them NON SMOKERS, where are smokers/vapors bill of rights?

K well thanks for allowing me to vent a bit, and I will do my best to abstain, I actually love stealth ! But would also like to see this main stream one day.

 

[DemonCowboy]

do the people that think treating it like smoking or worse really think this is going to do anything positive to our cause?!?!?

EXPOSE, EDUCATE!!!!!

that's the ONLY way these things are going to BECOME acceptable. if we hide in back alleys and in restroom stalls then we'll have to do that forever because they'll be banned!!!!!

now if we get people used to seeing us vaping, learn that it does them no harm, then it will become socially acceptable. if we hide it, it will not.

plain and simple!!!!.

 

[HeatherC]

Does that include caffinated beverages? I find I have to be tolerant of alot of behaviors I see people doing in public, I just don't worry to much about what they happen to be injesting, with the obvious exceptions of alcohol and like intoxicants(which is against the law to do in public).

What about those PDAs some people perform and I'm not talking the little pecks on the cheek or a brief touching of the lips... I'm talking about PDAs that are FAR different than that. (I'm sure someone has seen what I'm talking about.)

 

[Fig]

Uh... I have mixed feelings on the topic. On one hand, I want more people to know what vaping is so that they can quit analogs and be a little bit healthier!

On the other hand I don't like being stared at in a negative way or getting kicked out of a place... I'd also hate it if me vaping made people around me start lighting up old fashioned cigs thinking "what the hell... she's doing it!" This actually happened to me at a gas station once. I was vaping and some dude lit up a swisher sweet cigar. And if you don't know this, smoking at a gas station is DANGEROUS!!! I felt really weird and drove away quickly. hehehhahaa

 

[Para]

Personally I simply don't want to see peoples addictions. I don't want to see them walking around spitting their chew into a water bottle, I don't want to see them constantly chewing gum like a cow, I don't want to see them luxuriously eating a hamburger and I don't need to see them vape. Maybe I'm just an anti-social misanthrope but I just think it's tacky.

Different people have different addictions.
What about fat people chomping down on a big plate full of food?

 

[Cyia]

I have come to the solution. Pamphlets! LOADS AND LOADS of them. Line them in your purse, pockets, pants.. and vape away. People ask? hand them one and walk off LOL. I don't like talking too much to strangers. Mom and pa taught me well. But I don't mind educating when the situation calls for it. The more educated the person is the more well off their are going to be. Knowledge is power. I really want to find someone or just make them my self and when people start getting offended I hand them one and politely tell them to .... and read. Ignorance is a fuel for rage. IMO, it's like showing off the latest smart phone, car, or device. Some people will think badly of it and some will think oh neat what is that? It's always going to be a hit or miss and lurking in the shadows trying to avoid the misses only keeps us underground, slinking away from advancing forward. What's the point of buying the new iphone 4 with all the bad media against it? (sorry if this is a bad example. I <3 my iphone) a lot of people returned theirs, or didn't buy one because of the bad media. But with proven resistance against the bad, the iphone 4 is making a nice comeback by educating the populace about it and in turn sales went up, and in turn more acceptance.

In short: Show off your new life saving toy, educate the people and stun the madden crowds with a ton of information disproving them. and if all else fails walk away for another day!

 

[AlphaTau99]

Personally I simply don't want to see peoples addictions. I don't want to see them walking around spitting their chew into a water bottle, I don't want to see them constantly chewing gum like a cow, I don't want to see them luxuriously eating a hamburger and I don't need to see them vape.

So let's get this straight-- no smoking, dipping, chewing gum..... or eating? You're not fond of much are you? =P

Seriously though, I don't think any of us are advocating vaping up in an ER, or any other such nonsense. However, if we're trying to get a point across (in this case, that PVs are different than analogs) demonizing ourselves isn't going to do any good. That's shooting ourselves in the foot. Like I said before, vaping isn't smoking; there's simply no way to debate it. We're not going to educate anyone if we group ourselves with smokers; that's just giving ammo to a gun that's already pointed at us.

 

[Nobodyatall]

So let's get this straight-- no smoking, dipping, chewing gum..... or eating? You're not fond of much are you? =P

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You forgot texting and talking on a cellphone in public. After all, who wants to be forced to hear someones private conversation or have to step quickly aside or get run over by some fool who is transfixed on a little LCD display?

There are lots of annoying behaviors people engage in. Which way does freedom lie, in restricting the behavior that annoys but does not harm or endanger you, or in simply getting over it?

People are people... with all of their inglorious foibles.

 

[Trik_Ster]

antagonize non-smokers who will more than likely be uninformed about vaping and they will either kneejerk respond with wanting it banned completely or to tax it orders of magnitude higher

 

[BlueMoods]

In general, I don't vape where smoking is prohibited but, I did get permission from the two restraunts and the BYOB club I frequent. My boss vapes so, it is allowed at work anyway.

I like my PV which does look like an analog and, I do see where it could irritate anti smoking, cig haters so, I refrain where it would cause an issue. now at outdoorevents, even if it says no smoking, I vape, and explain it if asked. I'm outdoors, it does not stink and, I am not passing on second hand smoke so, in those cases, people just need to learn to accept it, IMO.

 

[Nobodyatall]

antagonize non-smokers who will more than likely be uninformed about vaping and they will either kneejerk respond with wanting it banned completely or to tax it orders of magnitude higher

So.... you would willingly give up your right to an activity that harms no one for fear they will take that right away from you anyway? *blinks* A people unwilling to fight for their freedoms, do not, perhaps, deserve them anyway.

I really prefer the educate the public and make it acceptable route.

As for the taxes, no doubt they will come. That's a given. (Place generic anti-government statement of your choice here) If people like a thing, the government will surely tax it as a public service for the "general welfare" of the people.

 

[HeatherC]

So.... you would willingly give up your right to an activity that harms no one for fear they will take that right away from you anyway? *blinks* A people unwilling to fight for their freedoms, do not, perhaps, deserve them anyway.

I really prefer the educate the public and make it acceptable route.

As for the taxes, no doubt they will come. That's a given. (Place generic anti-government statement of your choice here) If people like a thing, the government will surely tax it as a public service for the "general welfare" of the people.

Agreed If we keep hiding it it will never be accepted. I have had MANY non-smokers allow me to vape in their presence up to and including my MOTHER who is very anti-smoking! But I've also vaped in my son's therapist's office. My own doctor's office.. my dentist's office...
If we keep quiet those that want to ban these will win. If we start educating people MAYBE we can keep them from being completely banned!

 

[Trik_Ster]

So.... you would willingly give up your right to an activity that harms no one for fear they will take that right away from you anyway? *blinks* A people unwilling to fight for their freedoms, do not, perhaps, deserve them anyway.

I really prefer the educate the public and make it acceptable route.

As for the taxes, no doubt they will come. That's a given. (Place generic anti-government statement of your choice here) If people like a thing, the government will surely tax it as a public service for the "general welfare" of the people.

you start with fight for your freedoms and end with it's inevitable so why bother

you can't edumacate people who only see and hear what they want to

Typed out several different replys, settled for this
Probably shouldn't have posted in this thread

 

[Nobodyatall]

you start with fight for your freedoms and end with it's inevitable so why bother

you can't edumacate people who only see and hear what they want to

Typed out several different replys, settled for this
Probably shouldn't have posted in this thread

Meh... You sound a little pessimistic is all. It's hard not to be when surrounded with so much certifiable "stoopid" in the world. It's there and it's all around us all the time. That's the way I see it, anyway.

Personally, I just can't help rooting for "common sense" to win once in a while. Particularly in regards to e-cigs. They are something of a godsend.

Curse me for going "RAH RAH" if you wish. I actually deserve it once in a while.

 

[HeatherC]

you start with fight for your freedoms and end with it's inevitable so why bother

you can't edumacate people who only see and hear what they want to

Typed out several different replys, settled for this
Probably shouldn't have posted in this thread

Sometimes when you repeat logical arguments enough they do finally get through to SOME who would otherwise not hear. If you DON'T say anything at all you don't convince or influence anyone at all.

 

[Superstargoddess]

I always get ones that don't look like real cigs. And I always explain to people what it is, which is good since more people will get turned on to it! And I always make sure to explain it to the manager of the place and let him decide if I can do it or not.

Since it's tenchnically not illegal, it's up to the owner of the bar/resteraunt, whatever.

I can't type worth a damn today, feh.

 

[Nicronon]

I'm new here and new to vaping in general, and I don't want to step on any toes, but why should we have to hide our habit or whatever you want to call it in public? It seems to me the problems arise from other's ignorance, and I have a hard time altering my lifestyle and compromising due to other people's ignorance. Why not go about our business and then educate others when necessary? How will vaping ever become socially acceptable if we always hide it, giving the impression we are ashamed or scared for anyone to see? If we want a couple drags after a good meal in a restaurant, why should we have to hide?

Think about this... will we still be stealth vaping 20 years from now? Or will it be socially acceptable, maybe even the recommended method of quitting smoking? And then how silly will we feel for originally hiding?

The way I see it, the law says I can suck water vapor and nicotine into my lungs if I feel like it, and the law also says I can breathe out water vapor if I feel like it. If someone is unfamiliar with e cigs, then I can educate them. But if I 'stealth' and hide, then those ignorantly opposed to vaping will remain ignorant and opposed to vaping.

Do you realize if people all over began vaping in public, in restaurants, in hospitals, in malls, in grocery stores, etc, then the world would become socially aware of vaping and would have to either accept it or condemn it. There is no good reason to condemn it, so it would have to become acceptable. But if we are going to cover our LEDs, hold in our vapor till there is none, and sneak around with 'our new dirty habit', then we are going to continue being second class citizens. Personally, I thought I gave that up when I quit smoking. I didn't realize I was going to have to go into a new closet.