Please, don't vape where you can't smoke

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esdel

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On that same note, consider your location. If you are surrounded by kids, you may want to think twice. Not because of the vapor, but because you are a role model. A bunch of kids don't need to see you inhaling a foreign substance into your body.

With all due respect, I am NOT a role model for anybody's kids. Let their parents be their role models. It's not my job to send them positive messages. We shouldn't protect kids from everything, and we shouldn't try; it's not good for them. Besides, with all the sex and violence they're exposed to in the media on a daily basis, I don't think my vaping is the thing that's going to send them over the edge anyway.
 

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I agree with not vaping in public with an e-cig that looks like an analog. Regular cigarettes have absolutely earned the disdain of the general public and vaping them in the open is just begging for negative attention. For this reason, I only use my Revolver in restrooms or normal smoking areas.

However, I have never had a problem using my protege in the open and almost always get a "good for you" or "I hope it works" from people who are curious enough to ask what it is.

A lot of mods look like specialized tools designed specifically to "help" smokers quit and IMO, these are the types of e-cigs that need to get out in the open.

I have been granted permission to vape my protege at airports, in rental cars, in hotels, at work, and in restaurants.

Good points on the mods. The members on here who are more concerned with their PV looking like an analog than providing better performance just makes me shake my head. And why would anyone want non-smokers to think they are still smoking makes no sense to me, either. My mods, which don't look like an analog, always get positive comments from non-smokers because they realize I am doing something to get away from smoking instead of trying to look like I am still smoking.
 

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I get the sentiment, but if you saw a kid about to be hit by a bus, would you simply turn away and say "Not my responsibility?" I don't believe that. A kid thinking smoking is cool is still a kid in danger. If most of us didn't believe smoking was dangerous, we wouldn't be vaping instead.

LOL thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt; of course I wouldn't turn away. I'd say there's quite a difference between the two scenarios, though. Frankly, I doubt a kid will think smoking (or vaping) is cool if they see someone doing it, considering all the anti-smoking messages in the media (there's that media again). I have to say though, you're obviously a kind hearted person, probably a bit of the mother instinct there trying to protect kids, and I'm kinda touched by that. :rolleyes: I'm just an old grump, LOL.
 

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There is a time and a place for everything.

I will be vaping in the bars that I play at after the cig ban hits. One, I know that the bar owners won't mind and two, neither will the customers.

However, I wouldn't bust it out at any of the resteraunts that have always been no smoking. That is their policy and I don't think that they would care if it was vaping or smoking it could cost them business and they have the right to decide, not me.
 
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With all due respect, I am NOT a role model for anybody's kids. Let their parents be their role models. It's not my job to send them positive messages. We shouldn't protect kids from everything, and we shouldn't try; it's not good for them.
Total agreement, and the only time I was in a position to save a rug rat from getting run over by a bus, I got really worked over by the mother (kid stepped right in front of the bus wheel at the stop and all the mother saw was her screaming brat and me holding it).
 

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The only thing that matters to me is the wishes of the property owner. I will vape where I want, including places that don't allow smoking. If it becomes an issue, I will explain what I am doing respectfully.

If I am then asked not to vape, I will stop. I respect the rights of property owners to set rules on their property but smoking is NOT vaping. Some people think that it's harmful to "draw attention" to vaping, but I'm of the opposite mindset. By US, vapers, equating and acting as if vaping IS smoking we're softening vaping up for the deathblow. If people who USE personal vaporizers consider it socially equal to smoking, expect legislators and busybodies to do the same thing to our detriment.
 

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I usually follow the general vape where smoking is allowed in the general public, at work I don't really follow that rule "strictly". I usually slip up when I'm out drinking but the blue light helps.

I am always conscious about kids being around and I don't vape anywhere around them. When I have a house full of families over I reserve my vaping until in the man cave or outside. But it is cool to be able to vape in the man cave :)
 

esdel

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Total agreement, and the only time I was in a position to save a rug rat from getting run over by a bus, I got really worked over by the mother (kid stepped right in front of the bus wheel at the stop and all the mother saw was her screaming brat and me holding it).

LOL great story! It just goes to show...
 

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With all due respect, I am NOT a role model for anybody's kids. Let their parents be their role models. It's not my job to send them positive messages. We shouldn't protect kids from everything, and we shouldn't try; it's not good for them. Besides, with all the sex and violence they're exposed to in the media on a daily basis, I don't think my vaping is the thing that's going to send them over the edge anyway.

As a mother of 4, I understand what your saying.
But I am in the frame of mind( yes, I may be old fashioned) that "It takes a village to raise a child". Many countries and small towns still follow this example.
I think parents should be their number one role models. But if they are not, do we just turn a blind eye? I don't think its over protecting. I think its social responsibility.
 

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[FONT=Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial]The only place that has refused to allow me to vape is a restaurant/bar that I used to frequent. Their reasoning was that it looked like smoking[/FONT]

I'm afraid that is what is going to do us in. Management not wanting to deal with the closed minded anti-smoking Nazis.

[FONT=Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial]I had a passenger not too long ago that had an ego. About an hour after takeoff, me and my crew started getting complaints from other passengers that someone was "Smoking". Now being a PV user myself, and not smelling analogs I knew what was up. I looked out into the cabin and there was Mr. Ego blowing clouds of vapor into the air, Blowing smoke rings, and causing quite a stir amongst my other passengers.

I talked to the guy, and showed him I was a fellow ego user, but I couldnt have him upsetting the entire plane full of passengers. The guy instead of obliging (I even told him he could come in back and vape with me out of view) but that wasnt good enough. He argued, and escalated the scene to the point the Captain had to get involved...[/FONT]

Although I want to kill a-holes like this part of me understands. While I understand about most of the smoking bans it wasn't enough for some people they had to make us feel "lesser" like lepers and that really got to some people and e-cigs have given them something to lash out with. :(
 

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i always go out to the smoking area.

Now this is one I really don't understand! To me, this is just plain ridiculous!!!
First..why would you want to expose yourself to second hand smoke and the nasty smell?!? Might as well quit vapeing and go back to smoking!
Second...like someone else said, if we act like there is something wrong with or bad about vapeing we are only "fueling the fire" of all those idiotic, mindless, nazi-like, dips**t anti-smoking buttheads out there that want to put vapeing in the same catagory as smoking!!!!!
(Just at little rant 8-o) That comment got my dander up a little.;)
 

esdel

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As a mother of 4, I understand what your saying.
But I am in the frame of mind( yes, I may be old fashioned) that "It takes a village to raise a child". Many countries and small towns still follow this example.
I think parents should be their number one role models. But if they are not, do we just turn a blind eye? I don't think its over protecting. I think its social responsibility.

So then, I take it I can borrow your kids to have them do chores around my house?
 

wave42

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I'm afraid that is what is going to do us in. Management not wanting to deal with the closed minded anti-smoking Nazis.

The problem is that management doesn't want to spend its time policing who is vaping and who is actually smoking because they saw a vaper with an analog style e-cig across the room and assumed it was acceptable to light up. That fastest way to antagonize business owners/managers is make them waste their time explaining our "habit" to either smokers or non-smokers.
 

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The only time i vaped in a restaurant (besides the rest room) was while holding a hot cup of coffee and placing the cup to my lips and exhaling.
It just looked like the coffee was really hot, and nobody noticed there was added vapor.

That works well on a plane, too ;)
 
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