pls dont blow out clouds indoors around public

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KjAthena

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Hey Vin Cecil...I see we live in the same area...you will eventually see me vapeing all over the county watch for the silver haired grandma packing her VTR or legacy....I vape in GulfVeiw Square mall, the theaters, the grocery stores, Khols...you name it I vape there and educate others about vapeing as well.
I am a very respectful person but I will not hide in a corner and I have helped many people switch to vapeing and off the smokes because I do not hide.
 

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Shouldn't respect be a two way street?

Just cus blasting music thats extremely vulgar at a gas pump is legal, does not mean i want my son hearing it .

Just cus vaping is legal, some people don't agree. Its mostly the image they get from.seeing it. Like i said some people dont understand it.
 

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Since it's inconvenient to put out a half-smoked cigarette to run into a convenience store I can understand the urge for smokers to want to be able to run in, grab their goods and pay up with cigarette in mouth or hand. Our habit/hobby is more convenient than that. We can put it down without it continuing to burn or having to re-light. It'd be kind of obnoxious to me for a vaper to not be able to do a quick exchange without puffing for a whole 45 seconds. I've never seen anyone do such a thing though. But it'd be no different than people who can't get off their cell phones long enough to conduct business. It's not even about being disruptive to me. It's about latching on to a device like it's a pacifier. Put it down for 5 seconds would ya!? But, at a store that takes a longer time to shop I don't see anything wrong with an occasional indoor puff.
 
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Jay-dub

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That's interesting. First time I have heard of a "type specific" restriction. And I understand your management's thought process on the issue. I have always believed that the more we vapers do not use cig-a-likes, the better it will be for the vaping community.

I agree but it's a double-edged sword. Cig-a-likes get credit for converting a lot of smokers to vaping. Not arguing! Just throwing it out there. Off topic anyway. Should have PM'd you or moved along.
 

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There doesn't seem to be an acceptable area anywhere in NYC to smoke or vape. I always felt incredibly guilty smoking analogs when someone walked by with a child, or when someone made a show of waiving their hands across their face and fake coughing and hacking. Granted, the ones who made a show were being a**holes in general, but they had a point. While I don't have a big beautiful MOD, my ego battery and tank looks nothing like a cigarette, and the fruit flavored vaper I'm blowing out obviously isn't smoke. Regardless, I still get the same people making a show of fake coughing and waving their hands in front of their face. Doesn't matter that I'm no where near an entrance to any building and I take care in finding as quite a spot as you can find in NYC, just like I did smoking analogs. There are some people who will never understand, and will never stop fighting to have it ALL banned. I try to be respectful to a point, but I'm not going to reward the particularly ridiculous by changing my location or stopping if I'm outdoors and generally out of most people's way as it is.
 

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1 - I'm going to continue to advocate for vape everywhere. If that means, for some people, big clouds of vapor, I'm still going to advocate for vape everywhere. Currently, I do most of that advocating on a vaping forum, where you might think there would be full agreement. Sadly that this not the case. Given the current political fight, I think vape everywhere is the most reasonable position to hold. Am always glad to discuss this when a reasonable discussion is desired.

2 - I usually ask for permission in place I'm not sure what the policy is and if they say no, I respect that. I may stand there and discuss with person that said no, and I may not. I dislike when I do not. But if it is no, I make mental note to not go back there as long as there are other options and vaping is allowed in other places. I can go a couple hours without feeling craving to vape. At same time, if place has said no, I will consider vaping if I'm in corridor and alone. Openly vape. I wouldn't exactly advise others to do this, but I would note that I think chances of getting caught are very very slim.

3 - If I were to go to places near/around establishment that allow smoking and deliberate on choice of vaping there, I just assume smoke instead. As a moderate smoker, I can do both and feel smoking area is for smoking. I could vape there, and might, but would more likely seek corridor mentioned in #2, than step outside to vape. As I can go 2+ days without smoking, I don't seek out places that have designated smoking area. I hope they are okay with vaping or I go with logic of #2.

4 - This thread makes decent point about flaunting eCig/vapor, but feel that could be said about anything. As in, I can't think of anything that is cool with everybody in the public room to flaunt. So, not eCig/vapor that is the problem, but flaunting. Yet, perception of flaunting is subjective. From non-vaping ANTZ, everything I said in point #1 would be deemed advocating for flaunting behavior. In my understanding of 'true flaunting', I don't think I've ever flaunted an eCig, even in my own residence. Just not my style.

5 - Not the first time I've said this on forum, but if I were non-vaping ANTZ, I'd take up vaping (0 nic) and go everywhere I could to flaunt the eCig behavior. Apparently, that will be, according to some, the end of public vaping. Nothing quite like telegraphing to your opposition the direct path to the end goal. Hence non-ANTZ vapers either agree with logic of #1, or are at very least letting ANTZ know how bans are plausible. And I truly believe some, perhaps many, vapers would support legislation that has the word "ban" in it. I truly hope I never do, even if I become an ex-vaper.

6 - There is no six.

7 - We are in the golden era of public vaping. I think it is more likely that within 3 to 10 years, vaping will be prohibited everywhere in public, than it will be allowed because of thinking that public is up to speed with what vaping actually entails - zero harm from second hand vapor. So, NOW, is the time to vape wherever you can, whenever you can. You do run a risk of being kicked out, so yes, respect can go a long ways. But if I'm going to vape in a public place, it'll be open vaping, or I just assume not do it. The only way I've hidden it to date, is vaping in public place that told me it wasn't allowed, but I chose to do it in spot where no other human was visible. Haven't been kicked out yet. I'm fairly confident I never will be, even if full ban were in place (read as eCigs are illegal in society).
 
All it takes is a couple people blowing out vape clouds in front of people who don't understand, which will cause a certain type of fear in them. When people don't understand nor want to, that is when bans are started.
I personally don't vape in areas where suspension should arise to keep from the dirty looks from the ones who don't understand.
 

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The last thing to do is hide an eCig from a parent who is still a smoker.
The last thing to do is fill a smoking establishment full of smoke instead of dissipating vapor.
The last thing to do is let ANTZ rule your establishment. It's time for establishments to make their own rules. Put up Stealth Vaping sign here, Cloud Vaping signs there, Smoking signs there, Fine Fee rules, and mind your own businesses again.

Stop treating each other with such blatant disrespect.

If anyone gets a purposeful cloud blown in their face, they no doubt deserved it. Funny thing is? If that person were blindfolded they wouldn't even know the cloud was there. Ponder that why Don'tcha.

In fact, let's do a " Blind Study" shall we.
 

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I agree, I'm fairly new into vaping and I'm still finding it weird vaping indoors in public spaces. Having been a smoker for several years I've just been conditioned to go outside and smoke so I generally stick to these rules.

I've started to stealth vape with my ego & evod in some areas but definitely dont make huge smoke clouds... if anything virtually no smoke when i'm doing this :)

People who do this just make it worse for us all!
 

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Quickly learned to add another to my mother's list. Religion, politics, and vaping in public....

I vape at my desk at work. I do it stealthy because I don't want them to tell me to stop. :)

I don't vape in indoor public places. I just don't feel the need. Outside is different - I will if I feel like it.

I vape in my car, where I wouldn't smoke before.

I vape in my house, where I wouldn't smoke before.

Quick math - I've got a lot more freedoms with vaping than I do smoking.
 
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at the casino sat near a vaper who was blowing out clouds of vapor which will only lead to ecigs being banned indoors by the establishment.
I don't understand this thought. A person vaping will be banned from a smoking establishment, but a smoker won't? It's better to "light one up" than to be "different"? It is wrong If said Vaper received blessings from the establishment, because the establishment hopes more smokers to switch over to vaping which will soon put a stop to smoking, or at least a huge lull, without out casting members or losing their patronage? It's wrong to entice smokers with actual exhale instead of wispy tv commercial types of exhale that they once tried years ago? I'm really not understanding the reason for this thread.

Don't vape, in smoking establishments, stay smoking, pay your smoke taxes and be good little boys and girls.
Don't vape, don't entice other smokers with various strengths of eCigs, various cloud producers, etc...

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Really?
 
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