Provape - A New Respect

[Addy_AU]

I was about to buy the Provari 2.5, but due to the cost, I've decided to wait for the V3. All I would like is vw. Just much easier to control than the vv.

Addy

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[HazMatt]

First, to Phil
Thank you for all of the truly informative reviews and the inside the factory vids. I really like seeing all of the technical specs, graphs, and behind the scenes footage. I trust your opinions more than any other vape related, YouTube reviewer, because, you show the test results. I am a fan of your work.
Ok, the gushing fanboy praise is out of my system.

For my daily vaping habits, a Provari would be more than powerful enough. I could learn to use the menu system. And, I like that Provaris are on the shorter side, for a tube mod. However, my biggest problem with them, and the only reason I have not purchased one, they are heavy.

The most convenient way I have found to carry my PV is, on a lanyard around my neck. I do not like having a quarter pound of steel weighing my head down. I would like to see a Provari made of high quality aluminum or titanium.

 

[Sed Contra]

Titanium would be awesome, for sure!

 

[brekec88]

Actualy, kids today could ask "What's a CD player?"

...was watching Sword In The Stone with my daughter the other day and she said "Dad, It looks like someone drew this" lol

Honestly I only want 2 things from the Pv3, at least 5 amp limit (preferably like 10 amp but we all know thats not happening) and maybe make it a little shorter. Really I would settle with just a raised amp limit though. I hope it comes out within the next month or 2!

 

[stevegmu]

My guess is ProVari v.3.0 will be available around Christmastime...

 

[distortoblotto]

Titanium would be awesome, for sure!

No Titanium for me, I like the feel of cold hard polished steel in my hand.

The only Titanium I own is a bicycle and a watch.

 

[BadTrainDriver]

Def curious to see the final specs of the Provari3. They have a little catching up to do IMO and I am curious to see if they can do more than just keep up with the latest generation of VV mods

If you think that Provape needs to play catch up with a Provari 3, you fail to understand what makes the current Provari so special. If that's the case, I could explain it to you...or you could watch the video and learn that way.

 

[Marc411]

The Provari is a great PV but they are missing the boat to gain additional market share by not having VW. There are folks that want more than VV.

 

[Woody_]

Great video,and great effort from Phil to show us all the details from ProVape. My hat is down to you Sir.

 

[Vlad1]

The provari was (is?) a nice mod, but so was the Model T from Ford..... It just time to update the thing. I'm sorry for the provari faithful (which remind me a lot of Apple fan boys back before the iMac/iPod and apple's current success).

I'm sorry, this hobby/industry is growing as fast or faster than PC's and Smartphone's did a few years ago. At it's most basic, an ego stick does the same thing... you press the button and it powers the atty and you get vapor. None of us here reading this, or contributing to this forum care about that. I think most of us WANT the latest and greatest... we want the tech, we want to bells and whistles, we want to cool displays, we want the cutting edge.... why? I think most of us are obsessed with this hobby - I know I am.

Is Provape a great company? It sure looked like it to me... Do they make a quality product? absolutely. Do they stand behind their product? absolutely. ARE THEY DATED? ABSOLUTELY.

I wasn't as impressed with the video as many were, why? because I expected them to do most of the things I saw in that video... because they do make a good product. But its what? 2 years old according to them.... Think about how far this industry has come in the last year... LEAPS AND BOUNDS....

They can continue to make the Provari in its current state for the purists who will no doubt read this as an attack on Provape and the Provari... which it is not. But release something more CURRENT and up to the standards of todays HIGH END MODS for the rest of us. Their the company with all the employees with aerospace backgrounds, and rocket scientists building, engineering and designing these things.... They've ridden the current board and system for a good long time, built a brand... now develope and release something that "knocks the socks off the market" again.............. don't just paint it, coat it or engrave it and call it a new and improved version... The best provari since Thursday.

Sorry......... but in tech, and this is tech people, years are a loooong time to have essentially the same product, regardless how reliable.

I'm fairly new to vaping, going on 2 months now but I have found what I believe to be some of the best reviewers online. Phil is always #1 for technical, Rip for builds, grim and suck my mods for opinion / entertainment and Todd because I love his shed. So although the ProVape vids were not technical I still watched them both. Great informative view of the company Phil. Now that's out of the way this is what I took from the tour.

I Absolutely admire seeing a company as dedicated to quality and craftsmanship that ProVape demands of themselves and their employees.
The effort they put into acquiring components "Made in America" and supporting other US manufacturing is what built America. Cudo's to them.
They're genuine concern of the loss of manufacturing in America was apparent throughout the videos.
They're dedication to manufacturing a durable, quality, long lasting and safe product through all phases of their production line including customer service & repairs is applaudable.

So my perspective from last few months is the Provari is Cadillac of vaporizers in the vaping community. With all the emphasis on loss of jobs, decline of manufacturing etc.. I would think they would manufacture a product line like a GMC truck as well that would fit into the budget of a broader range of all Americans. It seems a bit of a contradiction of what they portray in the video to me. I'm sure they've done their market research to know the demographics they'd be best to target. Unfortunately I fall out of that group. I'm not in the poorhouse by no means, own my own house, 2 kids 2 dogs etc.. But I drive a Dodge truck. And don't anticipate a buying Cadillac anytime in the near future.

Would I like a Provari? Absolutely
Would I buy a Provari? No, I just cant justify the expense when I can buy 2--3 maybe more similar clones for the same price. After all I drive a Dodge.

Do I fault ProVape? Absolutely not. They are doing what they want with their company and doing a fine job at what they do from my perspective.

 

[BadTrainDriver]

Would I like a Provari? Absolutely
Would I buy a Provari? No, I just cant justify the expense when I can buy 2--3 maybe more similar clones for the same price. After all I drive a Dodge.

There is not a similar clone to the Provari that has been proven to be as reliable(fact)...so another way to look at it is:
Yes, you can spend $50 three times on units that MAY last six months...or you can spend $150 ONCE and have piece of mind that it has been proven time and again to always work.

Also, what about the warranty on the clones, and where do you have to send it to?
Are they upgradable in the future?
What if you break it...can you get it fixed at a set/reasonable price?

I am by NO MEANS rich, and I think the Provari is a true bargain.

 

[Vlad1]

There is not a similar clone to the Provari that has been proven to be as reliable(fact)...so another way to look at it is:
Yes, you can spend $50 three times on units that MAY last six months...or you can spend $150 ONCE and have piece of mind that it has been proven time and again to always work.

Also, what about the warranty on the clones, and where do you have to send it to?
Are they upgradable in the future?
What if you break it...can you get it fixed at a set/reasonable price?

I am by NO MEANS rich, and I think the Provari is a true bargain.

I was not comparing clones to the Provape models. Simply stating that I could not justify the expense on my budget and that it seemed a contradiction in their core principles that they didn't have a model at a more reasonable price range for a broader market.

But yes. I would prefer to spend $50 dollars on a device every 6 months if needed so I would at least be able to get the latest and greatest available rather than having an expensive device that I'd feel I had to cling onto because I had invested so much in it.

"I am by NO MEANS rich, and I think the Provari is a true bargain."
You fall into the demographics they market. I do not which was my other point.

 

[Baditude]

I haven't been around long enough to know, did Provape 1 owners poopoo the Provari for the added features?

Two different classes of mod. Mechanical vs regulated variable voltage. Apples vs oranges.

 

[tyoung]

After watching his video, it just made me want one more. Some day...

 

[Baditude]

some of the clips from that video were interesting, but I tuned out fairly quickly

you'd think with all those great minds they'd innovate an adjustable top cap

What? This?

 

[Baditude]

So my perspective from last few months is the Provari is Cadillac of vaporizers in the vaping community. With all the emphasis on loss of jobs, decline of manufacturing etc.. I would think they would manufacture a product line like a GMC truck as well that would fit into the budget of a broader range of all Americans. It seems a bit of a contradiction of what they portray in the video to me. I'm sure they've done their market research to know the demographics they'd be best to target. Unfortunately I fall out of that group. I'm not in the poorhouse by no means, own my own house, 2 kids 2 dogs etc.. But I drive a Dodge truck. And don't anticipate a buying Cadillac anytime in the near future.

Would I like a Provari? Absolutely
Would I buy a Provari? No, I just cant justify the expense when I can buy 2--3 maybe more similar clones for the same price. After all I drive a Dodge.

I understand your situation. I never made a lot of money but at one time I could afford to buy a Provari. I purchased two over a 6 month period of time, and was kindly gifted a third one by a Provarinati when I lost my job at age 59 and couldn't find work. I'm currently in the "poor house" as you said above.

Presently, I'm lucky to be able to afford e-liquid let alone another mod. I'm thankful that I was able to obtain three Provari's when I did. I won't need to purchase another mod for the rest of my life.

Have you looked into the Provape-1? It's a mechanical mod by Provape that is built with the same quality, care, and reputation of the Provari. Lifetime warranty. Probably the safest mechanical mod currently in production.

Provape-1

There are no clones of the Provari. To receive anything of quality and durability one must pay a certain amount of money if it is made in the USA. I wouldn't expect anything close coming from China at any price.

 

[Phone Guy]

LOL..... Like I said, just like apple fan boys back in the day.

Now the provape 1 is the safest mechanical too......LOL.....

 

[stevegmu]

Love the PV-1-

 

[Baditude]

LOL..... Like I said, just like apple fan boys back in the day.

Now the provape 1 is the safest mechanical too......LOL.....

Care to debate this?

PROVAPE-1 Features:

• 16 Second Safety Cutoff - If the button is held down for 16 seconds or longer the ProVape-1 will shut itself off, until the button is released. Protects you and the device from situations where it’s in your bag or pocket and something were to accidentally activate the switch without you knowing. This important safety feature is very valuable in protecting you and preventing a fire hazard.
  
  
• Fact: If you hold the button down on a continuous device for 2 ½ - 3 minutes, the atomizer can reach over 325 degrees. This can create a fire hazard or burn you. With the safety cutoff protection built into the ProVape-1 you no longer have to worry about a potentially dangerous fire hazard.
  
  
• Short Circuit Protection - This protects the ProVape-1 against shorted atomizers/cartomizers.
  
  
• Fact: A shorted atomizer/cartomizer and an unprotected battery can be a very dangerous combination. This situation can cause the battery to drain faster than it is rated for, and can cause a failure/explosion.
  
  
• Reverse Battery Protection - Protects against reverse battery installation.
  
  
• Fact: Some electronic cigarettes do not protect themselves from a backwards battery. If you put the battery in upside-down and attempt to use the unit, you will fry it.
  
  
• Thermal Monitoring System - Shuts the device off if it detects a high temperature condition. Once the device cools off, it will resume normal operation.
  
  
• Fact: Most mechanical mods lack this protection.
  
  
• Amperage Limiting Monitoring - The ProVape-1 will monitor and shut itself off if it detects any excessive over-current conditions.
  
  
• Fact: Many of the dangers associated with electronic cigarettes can be eliminated by monitoring the amount of energy the cigarette is using. Explosions and fires happen when too much battery power is consumed too quickly. The Provape-1 protects you from this by shutting down if it detects too much power draw.
  
  
• Fail Safe Monitoring Circuit - This special circuitry will monitor your device 24/7 for any abnormal conditions. If it senses something is wrong with its systems, the Provape-1 will shut down. Redundant safeties are built into the device so that no single point failure will cause an unsafe condition on the ProVape.

How many of these safety features does YOUR mechanical mod have? You need not respond, I already know the answer. NONE.

 

[p.opus]

All this talk about ProVape needing to innovate and upgrade. Why? We are not talking about cell phones, tablets, or other "tech" that people love to compare to ProVari's to make them seem obsolete.

What has changed in vaping since the first e-cig? NOTHING.

We still vape the same liquid, delivered via wicking material to a heated coil.

Oh sure, we may have carto tanks, clearomizers, RDA's RBA's, or God knows what other ways to get the liquid to the coil but we still heat it an vape it the same way.

So some of you are wowed by fancy OLED displays that show all the information at one glance (that by the way NONE of you can see when you actually are vaping).

So some of you are wowed by the fact that your e-cig can also charge your cell phone.....Great.

Some of you are wowed by variable wattage which is nothing more than changing units.....Fine....Congratz, you don't need to do math.

But fundamentally there is absolutely nothing a ProVari needs to do that it can't already. Until we vapers find a fundamentally different way to change our liquid into vapor, the ProVari will continue to be relevant...

A ProVari can't sub ohm. Well if you actually watched the videos, that's not what the people are about at ProVape. To them safety is key. I am not about to get into a debate about sub ohming and it's whether or not it's "safe".

But one thing can't be denied. As coil resistance lowers, your margin for error decreases almost exponentially. The difference between a 2.4 ohm and 2.5 ohm coil is nearly meaningless. The difference in a .4 and .5 ohm coil can be quite a different story.

And it appears, that ProVape is not prepared to enter that arena. Customer safety is number one. They want to make sure when you buy a provari, it will not blow up or vent a battery in your hand.

What does this mean to the average consumer? It means more durability, more reliability, better accuracy. This is what gives you safety. The device will continue to deliver what it says it will deliver....safely.

For all you cloud chasers who are criticizing the ProVari for not achieving 20, 30, 70 watts....guess what? It wasn't built for you.

I do not think that the boys at a ProVape are too concerned about whether or not you can vape your organic cotton, quad coil, smack your mama into next tuesday, double barrelled, vertical thunder coil by Rip Trippers on a ProVari. Sorry folks, wrong demographic.

It's not being "elitist" it's about where one's priorities lie. If you want to call me elitist, fine. I gave up a habit that was arguably the most unsafe thing I could do. Why then, would I want to then subject my self to risk in vaping product with sub standard testing, sub standard quality control and sub standard support? If we vapers' are serious about the term "risk reduction" then why wouldn't we want to purchase the most reliable, safest, product available to vape? If I'm an elitist because I want a device that was manufactured with customer safety at the forefront, then fine, call me elitist. I guess I'm elitist because I use seatbelts when I drive as well.

The number one driving goal at ProVape is safety..... And as a means to achieving that goal, they produce one of the most durable, reliable, and accurate devices on the market. That is what you HAVE to do, if safety is your primary goal.

And that is something that will never be obsolete.