Wow Steve, your enabler lessons are really paying off.
Anybody know what else 18650s might be good for?
I've got 4 myself, time to buy a flashlight?
Steve, How's the 510 adapter looking?
The Ever Changing ... Prodigy V1 (still not even at V2 yet)
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I've got 4 myself, time to buy a flashlight?
Steve, How's the 510 adapter looking?
Thanks for the update Steve,
I too ordered the 801 prodigy but also with a 901 adaptor and two 18650 batteries. I also had that question about the 18650s being replaced with the RCR123s in the orders. This is fine with me. Now I will have a couple of extra 123s for spares, which is always nice. I am also glad to hear about the battery specific charger. I prefer 5 volts over 6, and was already thinking about adding a resistor to mine when I got it.
Here is a little thought that you might be able to incorporate into the V2.
You could just add a small bypass (on/off) spst slide switch to be able to bypass the 1/2 ohm resistor. This will give those who want, an easy option to switch back and forth from 5 to 6 volts, and therefore no need for a pot-potentiometer, unless someone really wants variable voltage.
Now, like a lot of people have been asking, How long before the 510 adaptor is ready?
Me Wants!!!!!
I too ordered the 801 prodigy but also with a 901 adaptor and two 18650 batteries. I also had that question about the 18650s being replaced with the RCR123s in the orders. This is fine with me. Now I will have a couple of extra 123s for spares, which is always nice. I am also glad to hear about the battery specific charger. I prefer 5 volts over 6, and was already thinking about adding a resistor to mine when I got it.
Here is a little thought that you might be able to incorporate into the V2.
You could just add a small bypass (on/off) spst slide switch to be able to bypass the 1/2 ohm resistor. This will give those who want, an easy option to switch back and forth from 5 to 6 volts, and therefore no need for a pot-potentiometer, unless someone really wants variable voltage.
Now, like a lot of people have been asking, How long before the 510 adaptor is ready?
Me Wants!!!!!
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Nic, that's a great idea and would make the Prodigy truly modular. What do you think Steve, can that be done in V1 without sacrificing the use of a larger unit? It would seem ideal if you can pull it off..the best of both worlds. It would truly set it apart from anything out there. Besides, I think that the people that are in doubt would be forced to buy one for this feature alone.
Well... I originally shot an email out requesting the old configuration but have now reconsidered and think I will trust Steve's product testing and design. So I sent an email retracting my wish to receive the 'original' prodigy. I'm now looking forward to seeing this 'sweet' spot. Maybe V2 will incorporate some of the variable voltage ideas that are being thrown out...
A feature like this would make me buy it without thinking. I was really looking forward on the super long battery life with 3.7 volts. Now I don't know..
few questions.
do you believe that a swallow could carry a coconut? perhaps if two of them cooperated, and supported it with a piece of string in their beaks? or do they lack the air speed velocity?
which comedy team is better, Tim and Eric, or The Mighty Boosh?
(real question) i don't know that this has been asked, i know the "real" Prodigy will look like the pic, but do they actually have the "Prodigy" name on them, as they do in the picture?
would aesthetic alterations be a void to the warranty, such as pinstriping, permanent markers to write your name on it, painting it, drawing peace signs on it, etc?
and with the new changes, i just checked the site and saw the 18650 batteries have been removed (for clarity and less confusion i'm sure) so that should help keep people from mucking up orders i see?
and after readiing all these replies, i think you're onto something with the 5v. i also got the 3.7v for the battery life and also that i have a stash of 901 atomizers and didnt want to start fresh on 801....but your point made about 5v passthru and 5v "battery" is dead on. i definitely love the hit of my passthru better than the standard batteries, so i think that needs to be emphasized.
and my humble opinion on "long" battery users, i hardly use 1ml a day, just more on the weekends, but my standard 901 batteries last me a couple days with my minimal daily vaping. so i really think the idea that this new config isn't going to last "as long" as the 3.7v while accurate, may be a bit skewed.
i'd think if one goes through a handful of regular batts as is, there may not be a "one battery a day" solution for that, at least one that DOESN'T give an improvement to the current ecig....hence...5v better power, taste, longevity...so to me i think the battery issue should be less important than having a device that is set to push new boundaries and give a new experience.
now, i can't speak for 6v folks that just need that extra hit but i think this new change is pretty appealing, and i'm glad it's being done. i didn't give that much thought on the 3.7v not really being that strong, but now i'm glad i didn't have to make that decision and it has all been worked out for me!
also, thanks to all you jerks, i've actually used the words "milliamps per hour" in conversation. i'm already nerdy enough, i don't need to learn all this too!
wow i babble.
oh, seems like this was answered before, what's the average recharge time for the batteries? typical 6-8 hrs or is it faster than that?
do you believe that a swallow could carry a coconut? perhaps if two of them cooperated, and supported it with a piece of string in their beaks? or do they lack the air speed velocity?
which comedy team is better, Tim and Eric, or The Mighty Boosh?
(real question) i don't know that this has been asked, i know the "real" Prodigy will look like the pic, but do they actually have the "Prodigy" name on them, as they do in the picture?
would aesthetic alterations be a void to the warranty, such as pinstriping, permanent markers to write your name on it, painting it, drawing peace signs on it, etc?
and with the new changes, i just checked the site and saw the 18650 batteries have been removed (for clarity and less confusion i'm sure) so that should help keep people from mucking up orders i see?
and after readiing all these replies, i think you're onto something with the 5v. i also got the 3.7v for the battery life and also that i have a stash of 901 atomizers and didnt want to start fresh on 801....but your point made about 5v passthru and 5v "battery" is dead on. i definitely love the hit of my passthru better than the standard batteries, so i think that needs to be emphasized.
and my humble opinion on "long" battery users, i hardly use 1ml a day, just more on the weekends, but my standard 901 batteries last me a couple days with my minimal daily vaping. so i really think the idea that this new config isn't going to last "as long" as the 3.7v while accurate, may be a bit skewed.
i'd think if one goes through a handful of regular batts as is, there may not be a "one battery a day" solution for that, at least one that DOESN'T give an improvement to the current ecig....hence...5v better power, taste, longevity...so to me i think the battery issue should be less important than having a device that is set to push new boundaries and give a new experience.
now, i can't speak for 6v folks that just need that extra hit
but i think this new change is pretty appealing, and i'm glad it's being done. i didn't give that much thought on the 3.7v not really being that strong, but now i'm glad i didn't have to make that decision and it has all been worked out for me!also, thanks to all you jerks, i've actually used the words "milliamps per hour" in conversation. i'm already nerdy enough, i don't need to learn all this too!
wow i babble.
oh, seems like this was answered before, what's the average recharge time for the batteries? typical 6-8 hrs or is it faster than that?
A: For warranty reasons, yes ...
We also had to take in to account the majority of users ability to do things to it. The switch itself has its own housing, its not bolted/threaded like some other devices, and utitlizes a Tact *Type*, non mechanical type switch. Are these switches available online or from PS? Strictly for a consumer "Post warranty" home repair.
If one of the above mentioned components fail, The user is responsible for shipping the device to PS for repair? Is there a guaranteed turn around time for repair?
A: Yes. Turnaround won't actually be a repair. Once received, we will likely ship out a unit (either brand new or refurbished I guess you can call it) If the unit comes back really really damaged (dropped/stepped on/cracked etc...) then we will actually repair the one sent to us. Repair shouldn't take more than 24/48 hours.
Reasonable warranty policy with quick anticipated turn around times.
Have you committed to a full 1 yr. warranty for the V1 and USBPT?
A: Its actually on our site Warranty on the Prodigy is 6 months, the USB PT is 3 months. Taking into account the BEEFY design of these products, I don't anticipate having to take advantage of either warranty. But I have to say it is a little concerning to see additional electrical components incorporated into your "Bullet Proof" original design. But I'll take your advice and go with the AC and Cruise Control package on my new Heavy Duty Truck.
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We also had to take in to account the majority of users ability to do things to it. The switch itself has its own housing, its not bolted/threaded like some other devices, and utitlizes a Tact *Type*, non mechanical type switch. Are these switches available online or from PS? Strictly for a consumer "Post warranty" home repair.
If one of the above mentioned components fail, The user is responsible for shipping the device to PS for repair? Is there a guaranteed turn around time for repair?
A: Yes. Turnaround won't actually be a repair. Once received, we will likely ship out a unit (either brand new or refurbished I guess you can call it) If the unit comes back really really damaged (dropped/stepped on/cracked etc...) then we will actually repair the one sent to us. Repair shouldn't take more than 24/48 hours.
Reasonable warranty policy with quick anticipated turn around times.
Have you committed to a full 1 yr. warranty for the V1 and USBPT?
A: Its actually on our site
Warranty on the Prodigy is 6 months, the USB PT is 3 months. Taking into account the BEEFY design of these products, I don't anticipate having to take advantage of either warranty. But I have to say it is a little concerning to see additional electrical components incorporated into your "Bullet Proof" original design. But I'll take your advice and go with the AC and Cruise Control package on my new Heavy Duty Truck.See Red
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Now this is really cool - getting in on all the R&D of a next generation product without having to do any of the work! It's like having a team of bright young people coming up with great ideas and executing them, while my soldering iron sits nice and cool in its case, waiting for the next tube amp project.
My kinda work these days - chugging ale, vapin' away and watching the fun!
Keep up the good work, Steve. I'm looking forward to the Prodigy, whatever it turns out to be...
My kinda work these days - chugging ale, vapin' away and watching the fun!
Keep up the good work, Steve. I'm looking forward to the Prodigy, whatever it turns out to be...
My eyes are now glazed over lol.. And I know Steve has to be about questioned out.. So let me jump in real fast lol
:: tossing my LC 18650 batteries/ charger in a box:: lol
Juuust so I have this right> Since I only ordered the prodigy housing ( already having the batts and charger)... I am now needing to order> 3.0/750mAh RCR123a Batteries (2?) WITH an RCR123a Specific Charger ( please make this very specific on your site for the technically challenged lol, leave bread crumbs leading the way or something lol)
I have a 901 prodigy...So I would need to buy 510 and 401 adaptors for the prodigy ( the 510/410 don't work off of the same adaptor, correct?)...If anything does not sound correct..please let me know..
And we need adaptors as well for the PT's? All different ones for my 901,401 and 510 correct? Or do you buy like a 901 PT along with the additional adaptors you'd like? ( gawd, I need rehab lol)
I also second the testing on the VG and combo of VG juices on the 5v's.. I have a ton of varying juices... This will at least give me/us the option of dropping back down in Voltage if we must..That would be really sweet of you to do (smile)
It's very hard asking questions when you have no idea quite what youre needing to ask lol...Thanks if you can in anyway straighten out my shopping list for me lol....
After that... I got the shopping down.. No help needed there..::: twirling my credit card to the theme of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly...lol
:: tossing my LC 18650 batteries/ charger in a box:: lol
Juuust so I have this right> Since I only ordered the prodigy housing ( already having the batts and charger)... I am now needing to order> 3.0/750mAh RCR123a Batteries (2?) WITH an RCR123a Specific Charger ( please make this very specific on your site for the technically challenged lol, leave bread crumbs leading the way or something lol)
I have a 901 prodigy...So I would need to buy 510 and 401 adaptors for the prodigy ( the 510/410 don't work off of the same adaptor, correct?)...If anything does not sound correct..please let me know..
And we need adaptors as well for the PT's? All different ones for my 901,401 and 510 correct? Or do you buy like a 901 PT along with the additional adaptors you'd like? ( gawd, I need rehab lol)
I also second the testing on the VG and combo of VG juices on the 5v's.. I have a ton of varying juices... This will at least give me/us the option of dropping back down in Voltage if we must..That would be really sweet of you to do (smile)
It's very hard asking questions when you have no idea quite what youre needing to ask lol...Thanks if you can in anyway straighten out my shopping list for me lol....
After that... I got the shopping down.. No help needed there..::: twirling my credit card to the theme of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly...lol
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Casey told me to check back mid-next week with respect to PT adapters being available to be added to the order. I'm going to hold her to that j/k
So excited about the new gear it's almost unbearable - So happy to know the PTs get special treatment with their own fittings!
RNR,
In an attempt to help you keep your shopping list as simple as possible.... I'd suggest sending Casey an email (PureSmoker.com - Your #1 Source For PV's, Parts, & Accessories!) requesting to change your order to the Prodigy V1 901 KIT (PureSmoker.com - Your #1 Source For PV's, Parts, & Accessories!) instead of the base kit.
For $45 more your getting 4 RCR123a's (2 for use and 2 for back-up, so you'll always have a charged set of batts ready to go), The correct, battery specific charger for your batts, a 901 Atomizer, and saving yourself the hassle, worry and added shipping of finding the correct batts and charger elsewhwere. You'd be getting all your Prodigy shopping done with a quick email, also your getting $48 worth of merchandise for $45.
Last I heard, None of the alternate adaptor styles are currently available. I wouldn't be surprised if those additional adaptor models are still a couple weeks away from being available, as Steve has been very busy with all the last minute improvements on both the V1 and the USB Passthroughs... Never know though, He seems to be quite adept at juggling many challenges simultaneously.
Just my suggestion. I'm sure Steve will reply to your questions as time permits,
Mike
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Thank you for the info stratovation and mg...And for the links/addys..I like your suggestion much better.. No need for breadcrumbs etc... I can concentrate on the adaptors later... Have a good one you guys.....Ivy
np Ivy, Looks like sooner rather than latter re. the additional adaptors!
Have a Vapetastic day!
Have a Vapetastic day!
OK, so I just emailed Casey because I want to keep the old version order so I can use my 18650s at 3.7v.
I hope this was right. If not, could someone please let me know?
Thanks!
Lu
I hope this was right. If not, could someone please let me know?
Thanks!
Lu
Hi Lu,
Yes, The original version will not incorporate the new resistor circuitry, but Steve did state in post #74 "I would also like to add ... 3.7v used WITH a load only pumps out 3.3 - 3.4v". Based on his findings, your 18650 will be in the 3.3-3.4v range.
Steve also suggested in post #46 that "Yes, you can also request the universal charger if you infact want to change your mind and stay with the original config." Just in case you prefer an 18650 compatible charger, not sure if Casey notes the charger choice automatically or not.
Mike
Thanks Strat. The reason I got the 18650 in the first place is because I already have the batts and chargers with my LV...and I like the power with that one...so I think 3.3-3.4v will be okay. (Actually, I call that my powerhitter so if this, by chance is a bit less, I think that will be okay too. Just wouldn't want to go lower than that.)
Lu
Hey Guys ...
Originally made, to work with both 3.7v and 6.0v+ power, we simply weren't happy with the result. 3.7v (once a higher voltage is experienced) is nothing ... literally. 6v, while still simply amazing, cooks juice at an UNBELIEVABLE rate ... and when in the hands of an inexperienced user, can toast atomizers like nothing ...
EDIT: O, and timing. We are roughly about 7-10 days out
Cash, thanks for the extra work. It will save you and us headaches in the long run. Just checked the GG site and several people are toasting atomizers like crazy at 6v.
Brian
Lu,
I didn't mean to imply this would be any less voltage than what you get with the same batts in your LV. I was just passing along the info that 3.7V batts don't actually supply 3.7V when under load (ie. Heating the atomizer). Not sure what an LV is, but if it uses an LED or any voltage regulating circuitry, you will likely have more available voltage (under load) with the Original Prodigy vs. the LV.
Sorry if I caused any confusion,
Mike
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