Who here is not stocking up in preparation for the May 12th, 2020 Deadline?

[DaveP]

Gotta disagree here. They bust drug users (the small guy) because the goal is to try to get to the suppliers. And in the process it makes them look like they are "cleaning up". And when it comes to nicotine/tobacco, it's a really big no-no when you step on their toes. The govt needs to control tobacco movement/sales. It' s very profitable for them.

Nic Suppliers are selling product legally at this point. That could change if vaping further threatens the tobacco industry and the taxes it produces for government.

It's easier to raid suppliers than it is to raid the sanctity of a private residence. I can't see law enforcement spending the revenue to violate the rights of a citizen to confiscate something that is currently allowed to be sold on the open market.

Nicotine may be declared a controlled substance only because high milligram nic is an actual poison. Nic sold in concentrations of 24mg and below may not be a consideration.

Although I'm not worried about the future legality of vaping, I have a lifetime supply of 100mg nic in the freezer. Better safe than sorry. My 3 liters are good for 27 years of DIY at a 3mg/ml mix and 8ml daily vaping. I doubt I'll outlive my nic. If I do then I'll vape zero nic. The hand to mouth part of vaping is a large part of my hobby.

 

[Uncle]

FYI:

Thought this thread might help get back to the OP Discussion an stay on topic:

SO - What is going to happen ?

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Just Sayin' . . .

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[DaveP]

Couldn't help myself. I ordered two more iStick Pico 75w mods to add to the stack in my vape closet. Those are usually my daily vape, so why not? $18.52 each at VaporL.

 

[bnrkwest]

Commercial juices definitely have additives in them such as citric or malic acid and lots of other things that are difficult if not impossible to recreate. That’s why I decided to take the advice of experienced DIYers and didn’t try to clone a recipe to perfection or make myself nutty trying to get my juice to taste like commercial juices.

Now that I’ve been vaping my own juice for 2 years the commercial juice has too much flavor and additives in it for my now simplified palate lol!

And it’s a good thing with the cost of juice since I’m a chain vaper going thru 25-30 mls a day. And on top of that my wonderful state banned flavored juice- such bs!!

any how that’s what’s great about vaping- there’s a niche for everyone depending on personal preference.

I am the same, I love my diy, it is clean and bright. Commercial juice for me is too thick, too heavy tasting for me to vape constantly. I enjoy a hit on it occasionally but I always prefer my diy.

 

[stols001]

I enjoy DIY also but even if I didn't I would probably be learning.

I don't believe I said the black market will immediately dangerous, horrible, etc. I SAID it seemed crazy to me when you can buy what you need plentifully and easily NOW to wait around for the black market. It will be cheaper, safer, and easier. Well, freezer space is a PITA but that's about it.

I agree that most of the time, the black market is fairly reasonable... Until it isn't. I'm sure the folks buying MJ cartos were THRILLED with their black market experience, until they DIED. And that stuff was LEGAL. Much of vaping will NOT be.

If I never have a "face to face" interaction with a dealer, I am FINE with that. AND, for some on the black market, it isn't face to face, more like face to groin. Sorry, I grew up Maryland (as a rich little white kid) things were fairly easy for me, other than my HORRIBLE mistake in dating, having an accidental kid with and then marrying my dealer. That was horrible (not out of necessity either, it was just... . it became a thing.)

I really.... Low level dealers are unpredictable, annoying, often progress to harder substances and things go bad. I am not suggesting ejuice dealers are necessarily going to be selling much but eliquid.

However, I did WORK in East Baltimore (at the John's Hopkins Methadone clinic as it happens, and well, if I never deal with another black market again, including treating the results of addiction to one (58 percent HIV positive, 68 percent former felons 90% PTSD due to their life experiences) well excuse ME for thinking black markets are harmless OVERALL.

I would never buy eliquid off the black market, you couldn't pay me enough to find a dealer I trusted and engage in that type of risk.

As far as parcels, some will be inspected. My thought is it is likely there will be hares deterrent policies, like FINE, HUGE FINE, JAIL TIME and fine, etc. They are gonna have to pay for the inspectors anyhow.

I'm not telling anyone NOT to use the black market, but having experience the 5% on some occasions.... No thank you..

It just BAFFLES me is what I am saying when it is COMPLETELY unnecessary,.

Anna

 

[crxess]

The only thing I have <Had to> buy since 2015 is Flavoring.

Over the next 100 Years, the only thing I will need to purchase is Flavoring, PG/VG and a few Batteries

 

[stols001]

They will often bust buyers. Offer them a deal to give up their source. Hold onto that info and bust the lower level dealer who in turn gives up HIS/HER source and well they go as high up as they can until they reach the high up person who has donated to them and also mildly suggested their children will be quietly and accidentally killed, at which point they say, "Okay can I bust the person below you." And the head honcho is like, "Sure, you earned it."

That has kind of been my impression anyway.

I am talking about traditional black markets. No idea yet what a nic one is going to look like but NO desire to find out first hand.

Anna

 

[Jman8]

Giving ejuice to your family is not marketing and distributing.

Hilarious. Giving is not distributing. OMG, that's funny.

 

[Jman8]

I have high desire to both stock up (not a lifetime's worth) and to find out what the nic/eLiquid black market will be like. I imagine it would be similar to buying a candy bar on the black market.

 

[Oregon Linda]

I'm not so sure it will be profitable enough for there to be a black market.

 

[Don29palms]

Hilarious. Giving is not distributing. OMG, that's funny.

What is your first language because you obviously don't understand english? Maybe have someone explain to you what marketing and distributing is. Marketing refers to the activities of a company associated with buying, advertising, distributing, or selling a product or service. Distributing is the process of making a product or service available for the consumer or business user who needs it. With your definition of distributing it would be illegal to give someone a beer, a cigarette or just about anything else.

 

[ChelsB]

Commercial juices definitely have additives in them such as citric or malic acid and lots of other things that are difficult if not impossible to recreate. That’s why I decided to take the advice of experienced DIYers and didn’t try to clone a recipe to perfection or make myself nutty trying to get my juice to taste like commercial juices.

Now that I’ve been vaping my own juice for 2 years the commercial juice has too much flavor and additives in it for my now simplified palate lol!

And it’s a good thing with the cost of juice since I’m a chain vaper going thru 25-30 mls a day. And on top of that my wonderful state banned flavored juice- such bs!!

any how that’s what’s great about vaping- there’s a niche for everyone depending on personal preference.

I think I need to re-train my palate! It’s really bothering me that I have over 250 flavors just sitting unused. Time to make some changes . I’ve been wanting to fully get back into this for quite a while, after all, I used to love my homemade juice. Now with my ADV being discontinued, I’ll eventually run out so this is forcing me to get back into DIY


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[Jman8]

I would say it depends on how much you're giving. A beer or a cigarette, would be equivalent to (at most) a milliliter of eLiquid. Probably a non issue. But if one is suddenly a manufacturer of eLiquid, be it small time, and they are giving 50 ML to family and friends, then yeah, that's distributing. Of a product that currently violates the Tobacco Control Act.

 

[Don29palms]

I would say it depends on how much you're giving. A beer or a cigarette, would be equivalent to (at most) a milliliter of eLiquid. Probably a non issue. But if one is suddenly a manufacturer of eLiquid, be it small time, and they are giving 50 ML to family and friends, then yeah, that's distributing. Of a product that currently violates the Tobacco Control Act.

Wrong again as usual. Where does it say anywhere that you can't make your own ejuice? And where does it say you can't give it away? You have no clue what you're talking about? No suprise there. Post up some proof. You can't do it.

 

[Fidola13]

I am the same, I love my diy, it is clean and bright. Commercial juice for me is too thick, too heavy tasting for me to vape constantly. I enjoy a hit on it occasionally but I always prefer my diy.

That’s a perfect way to describe the diy juice vs commercial!!

 

[chanelvaps]

My SIL is too cheap to spend up front. And I doubt she believes the ban is coming. She says she’ll worry about it IF it happens,

I know a few like this and this translates to me that they will become my problem.

 

[chanelvaps]

Remember that feeling when you smoked your last cig in a pack awhile ago and you thought you had another full pack and you don't and it's midnight on Sunday and you think crap I have to run to the store for more! I hate that feeling LOL That's why I DIY and have supplies at hand

OMgosh I NEVER let myself get in that position. I bought 4-5 cartons at a time and would be out getting more before I opened my last carton. UGHH

 

[bnrkwest]

OMgosh I NEVER let myself get in that position. I bought 4-5 cartons at a time and would be out getting more before I opened my last carton. UGHH

You were a much more organized smoker than I was LOL

 

[DeloresRose]

OMgosh I NEVER let myself get in that position. I bought 4-5 cartons at a time and would be out getting more before I opened my last carton. UGHH

I lived on the edge. I’d get down to 2-3 cigarettes. That said, I’ve never had less than 1/2 tank of gas.

 

[chanelvaps]

You were a much more organized smoker than I was LOL

Not sure about more organized. More obsessed and sick about it maybe. LOL