Who here is not stocking up in preparation for the May 12th, 2020 Deadline?

[bnrkwest]

I wonder what it will be like for those that think everything will be available when nothing is. We see things being sold out now, I can't imagine after May 12. I can't see much for vape shops to keep open and if online ordering gets shuts down, what will people do?

 

[Jman8]

I am just curious... Who here is not stocking up on a lifetime supply of nic and hardware before the May 2020 deadline?

I'm stocking up, but not for a lifetime. I'd say for 6 to 18 months.

And why not?

Partially because of the expense. Partially because I'd rather not have the amount that (black market) dealers will have on hand, and mostly because I believe products will be available (on black market).

Do you plan to quit vaping?

Not currently, but admittedly, if market was so dry on stuff I currently enjoy, I'd probably lean toward quitting. I imagine that to be easy.

Do you plan on going back to cigarettes?

I smoke very rarely now, but I'd possibly go back to that in a very dry ecig market. I currently consider that highly unlikely.

Do you plan on just vaping whatever three or four hunks of junk (i.e. nJoy or Blu type) tobacco flavored garbage the FDA approves?

I do not plan on it, but I wouldn't rule it out.

And if May 2020 wasn't enough of a reason, are you not worried about other things like the bill on the floor to add $2,780 in taxes per 1 liter of 100mg nic?

More ...... off than worried. But I expected the zealots to go in that direction.

 

[Jman8]

So if they banned vaping, you have to quit or smoke cigarettes.

Hilarious.

Yeah, when they banned marijuana, people quit that. Same with alcohol.

Again hilarious.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Hilarious.

Yeah, when they banned marijuana, people quit that. Same with alcohol.

Again hilarious.

Now you're talking about the black market. A grave concern for vapers. I for one would never consider buying vape juice on the black market. I'd go HNB or just quit.

 

[Jman8]

Now you're talking about the black market. A grave concern for vapers. I for one would never consider buying vape juice on the black market. I'd go HNB or just quit.

Still counters your laughable point. And your larger point.

 

[Jman8]

I wonder what it will be like for those that think everything will be available when nothing is. We see things being sold out now, I can't imagine after May 12. I can't see much for vape shops to keep open and if online ordering gets shuts down, what will people do?

So the only people currently stocking up are hoarders? Is that what you are saying? Is that what some (to most) of you believe?

Black market people are clearly stocking up. Probably were before you all even thought about it. I wouldn't be surprised if they are pushing for heavy regulations either.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Still counters your laughable point. And your larger point.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Black market people are clearly stocking up. Probably were before you all even thought about it. I wouldn't be surprised if they are pushing for heavy regulations either.

Oh, I see now what you're angry about now. You think vapocalypse hoarders are hoarding because they see a massive black market profit potential.

I'm sure its true for some. In fact, I'd bet on it. But I doubt any of them have even 1 dram if political clout to be able to "push for heavy regulations" lol

 

[Jman8]

Oh, I see now what you're angry about now. You think vapocalypse hoarders are hoarding because they see a massive black market profit potential.

I'm sure its true for some. In fact, I'd bet on it. But I doubt any of them have even 1 dram if political clout to be able to "push for heavy regulations" lol

Is this in english?

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Is this in english?

Aaaah, now you are making lies and attacks on me because I laid down a truth that makes you uncomfortable. Fair enough.

As G Love says, "Sum peoples just like dat"

 

[Jman8]

Aaaah, now you are making lies and attacks on me because I laid down a truth that makes you uncomfortable. Fair enough.

Lies and attacks? I asked a question.

You told me I was angry. I'm not. You characterized my position as being angry hoarders are hoarding in view of black market potential. That very much misses my point.

Hoarders will not be black market operators, or if they do, they'll cease to be hoarders.

Because there will be black market operators, it is reason why some of us are not stocking up. I'm not the first person in this thread to allude to this. I see it as common sense. As I said in my first post, I'd rather not be viewed as a dealer, which hoarders will be, if ever caught with their stash. Claim all you want it's for personal use, so that at least one person believes that. I doubt law enforcement will. I reckon everyone in the community will wonder why an individual needs 30 years supply of nicotine. I get why, because I'm a vaper. I think the vast majority of non-vapers will see it as you're a dealer trying to weasel your way out of being busted with your stash.

 

[bnrkwest]

So the only people currently stocking up are hoarders? Is that what you are saying? Is that what some (to most) of you believe?

Black market people are clearly stocking up. Probably were before you all even thought about it. I wouldn't be surprised if they are pushing for heavy regulations either.

I am honestly curious what people will do. I myself am just covering my own needs. Basically because I don't want to quit vaping and I do not trust the black market at all.

 

[bnrkwest]

Lies and attacks? I asked a question.

You told me I was angry. I'm not. You characterized my position as being angry hoarders are hoarding in view of black market potential. That very much misses my point.

Hoarders will not be black market operators, or if they do, they'll cease to be hoarders.

Because there will be black market operators, it is reason why some of us are not stocking up. I'm not the first person in this thread to allude to this. I see it as common sense. As I said in my first post, I'd rather not be viewed as a dealer, which hoarders will be, if ever caught with their stash. Claim all you want it's for personal use, so that at least one person believes that. I doubt law enforcement will. I reckon everyone in the community will wonder why an individual needs 30 years supply of nicotine. I get why, because I'm a vaper. I think the vast majority of non-vapers will see it as you're a dealer trying to weasel your way out of being busted with your stash.

Keep receipts, everything I have has a date of purchase. Much of mine is old stock not manufactured anymore or really hard to find. I'm a collector LOL

 

[DPLongo22]

Tis better to have and not need, then...

I think I'm covered. Cut nic if need be.

So, no. I'm not not stockpiling.

I'd love to one day be selling a WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF for REALLY CHEAP! That's my ultimate goal. It would mean than common sense made its return.

To dream, perchance to sleep.

 

[440BB]

I think the idea that people will be "caught with their stash" is ridiculous. The regulations pertain to marketing and sales, not individual possession.

 

[Uncle Willie]

I stocked up a long time ago .. I have at least 50 years worth of nic in the freezer, since I vape at around 6-10mg .. at my age, it's substantially more than a lifetime supply, unless the Fountain of Youth is discovered .. thusly ::

 

[englishmick]

Hoarders will not be black market operators, or if they do, they'll cease to be hoarders.

Because there will be black market operators, it is reason why some of us are not stocking up. I'm not the first person in this thread to allude to this. I see it as common sense. As I said in my first post, I'd rather not be viewed as a dealer, which hoarders will be, if ever caught with their stash. Claim all you want it's for personal use, so that at least one person believes that. I doubt law enforcement will. I reckon everyone in the community will wonder why an individual needs 30 years supply of nicotine. I get why, because I'm a vaper. I think the vast majority of non-vapers will see it as you're a dealer trying to weasel your way out of being busted with your stash.

I have enough nic to last me and the wife for 20+ years, and I bought most of it back in 2015. I think I would have a good defense if they tried to charge me with black marketeering. Unless I was actually doing it and got caught. I would be wary of having more than I could arguably be able to use in my lifetime.

I'm sure there are people out there preparing to cash in. It wouldn't cost that much to put away multiple gallons of nic. I did the sums once. My small stash converted into 6mg juice at $30 for a 30ml bottle, which is what I was paying 6 years ago, would be worth half as much as my house (not factoring in VG or flavoring or bottles).10 or 20 gals could make you rich.

A few years ago Indiana briefly passed a vape law. Literal reading of the law made it a crime to mix juice and sell it, or even give a bottle away to a friend. I can see the environment resembling that in the fairly near future. I won't be giving anyone juice when that happens.

 

[jwbnyc]

Tis better to have and not need, then...

I think I'm covered. Cut nic if need be.

So, no. I'm not not stockpiling.

I'd love to one day be selling a WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF for REALLY CHEAP! That's my ultimate goal. It would mean than common sense made its return.

To dream, perchance to sleep.

Yeah, I’ve got stuff, but not an insanely large amount.

Nic, about enough to get me 12 Years down the road. If push comes to shove, cutting to 6mg/ml gets me to the endzone, being realistic.

I am thinking things will shake out in less than a decade. Maybe.

That may be overly optimistic, but hey, I’m an overly optimistic guy.

 

[englishmick]

When I was working I knew quite a few vapers. I retired in 18, I know around half a dozen now. None of them at work or since have stocked up at all. It would be interesting to know how many stockers there are and how much they have stocked, but it's hard to see how that information could be collected.

 

[wheelie]

Not stocking up at all. Looking forward to the day in 2020. Might be a whole lot of gear on the cheap. If nothing happens on the big day most will have nicotine to last a few years so companies may want to get rid of their stock. I will be watching closely. I stocked up 2-3 years ago and still have a ten year supply. Stock up was not needed in Canada like we thought was going down. Think US will be about the same. CHEERS!