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Oh yeah I work in HVAC and do not have limited funds so go back to doing what you were doing and stop telling me what I need to do OK...
It really just happens over here (the apv discussion area) as far as I can tell. Too many fans of certain devices get hyper-defensive or whatever. Don't let it get to you.
I wouldn't go back to lurking just ignore the Provari owners when you post about a "LT" at all because it's a touchy subject for them (Probably best to post about the "LT" in the Lavatube boards)
If you post about other devices you won't have an issue here. The "LT" is a great device for the money and a lot of people are happy with it
I have been happy with my LTmini. I have only had it about two months. I saw this unit and that the store that sells it is less than 50 miles from where I live. From what I hear about them they are a great outfit. I like to valentine but am not so much into the technicalities of this hobby yet. But I'm getting there fast.
Yeah I've had my "V1 LT" since 3-12-12 it works great..with the 2.5ohm CE2's I use at the volts I set it to (mostly around 3.7-4.2v..sometimes 4.4v) it's within hundredths of volts of my setting..anyways it's not like it needs to be the exact voltage it just needs to be close just like ohms of the coils are only close.
What some have an issue with is the 2.5a limit of the 1st version because they like to use dual or low resistance coils at high voltage. With the 4a switch this new device should preform well with DC or LR coils for a low cost.
Don't expect voltages to be exact because they probably won't (should be within 0.1-0.2v up to the amp limit) but they will be close within a range like a lot of electronic devices it doesn't need to be exact (as I'm sure you know). If the device preforms decently within the specs I've seen most will be very happy with it
Test pilots test the prototypes before the model goes into production, so that doesn't really apply here. And I doubt you really understand what fuzzy logic is, because you use it as a disparaging term, when in fact it is a very sound form of logic that applies to situations that may have multiple or partial results. My reasoning is solid.
I'm sorry you no longer like your LT, even though several months ago you were quite happy with it, and said everyone should buy one. I'm glad you like your Provari now. Maybe someday I'll buy a Provari, too. I hope that if I ever do buy a Provari I don't turn into a "provangelist" that hops from thread to thread praising people who buy Provaris and bashing people who buy Lavatubes. Yes, you do this, I read your post history. It's a big world with a lot of people, and each of them has different likes and dislikes. Each of us in this forum is at a different situation in our lives. What works for you may not be right for someone else. There's really no reason for you to mock anybody here.
Cheers!
Some people cannot be helped......I did own and like a LT until I did the "required" testing that obviously was not done by the manufacturer.....I quickly revised my posts and warned people of the flaws.......Dude...buy the "new" LT....I hope it works for you....Damn...for 70 bucks I would buy another if it worked!!! Dont think I have loyality to ANY product out there.....I own more mods than most people on this forum....If anyone is the test dummy its me....Im trying to help out people with LESS cash who cannot afford it......I just want this "new" version to work and will be skeptical until convinced it does......
I would classify what you're doing as 'concern trolling'. It's pretty obvious that you don't want to help people save money, because if you really did you would have already bought one of these bad boys, tested it and posted your honest findings on the device. If they performed under your expectations, you would have the potential to 'save' people from buying what you feel is a faulty device due to your extensive testing. Since you don't actually own one and don't seem to even want to, you shouldn't be telling people it's a bad idea to buy this device just because you personally are skeptical about it. I am of the opinion that anyone who is vaping and is considering buying the LT 3.0 is well aware of how much money they are willing to spend on their vaping hobby and do not need someone else telling them how much they should spend. That's just common sense, sir.
Anyway, when I receive mine I'm going to play with it for awhile and give my first impressions. If I don't like it, I can come back and help save some people with you
Ok since you think the "V3 LT" is a risk what single battery tube VV with a display do you recommend for someone on a low budget?..for me it's the "LT" I can own 2 or 3 of them without breaking the bank and they preform just fine..see I researched what I was buying before I bought the 2.5a one and it does just fine with the single coils I use and I suspect the new 4a one will do really good with a dual or low resistance coil...
Don't waste your time..he says no brand loyalty but if you just click his name and click "View forum posts" as I did more than a day ago you will see what forum almost half his posts are in for his recent posts.
That was not a flame at all..... I thought by your comment that you didn't own a multimeter and just thought it odd for the trade you were in.....
I just ordered the vector variable volt black kit from Vapor Best. For $68.99 with 2 high drain batteries, 1 charger, 2 3.0 ohm atty's, 1 ming drip tip, a carrying case and free shipping I can't see much of a risk at all. I look at it this way:
2 - 18650 high drain batteries ~$16
2 - 3 ohm attys ~$10
1 - single battery charger ~$8
1 - ming drip tip ~ $3
1 - carrying case ~ $5
Total ~ $42
Risk $70 - $42 = $28
If the unit is a POS and breaks after 30 days I'm out $28
So I'll take the risk for $28 because I can always use the other stuff that comes with the kit.
2 - 18650 high drain batteries ~$16
2 - 3 ohm attys ~$10
1 - single battery charger ~$8
1 - ming drip tip ~ $3
1 - carrying case ~ $5
Total ~ $42
Risk $70 - $42 = $28
If the unit is a POS and breaks after 30 days I'm out $28
So I'll take the risk for $28 because I can always use the other stuff that comes with the kit.
SO is the Vector from Vaporbeast really with a 4 amp cut off. I've been looking between the LT a Shan vapecore VVsplash and now unfortunately a provari, but i dont want to buy a provari. Stevek says the new provari shows the imfamous error code at 4.9 volts on his dualies now. I want to vape my dual coil cart tanks ant higher than 4.5 volts but less than 6. You guys think the vector will do it if it is truly 3.0, I'll buy it now. But i did buy the switchback from vaopbeast, honestly it was cheap for the unit, and it is basically a novelty mod.
The postman just dropped mine off, I'll take the charger and bats to work with me so when I get home from a hard day of work I can conduct rigorous multimeter testing as is apparently required, according to some people. Nah, tonight I'm just going to play with my new toy while I watch some Netflix, have a drink, and relax.
One of the main reasons for high amperage is to use carto/atties with higher ohms,that provides a larger surface area.
You can equal up the watts ie, 1.5 ohms 3 volts 2 amps or 3.0 ohms 6v 2 amps. The math equals out but that's not where it ends. The 3 ohm coil has twice the surface area and while it throws out the same power/photons it does so in a manner that it has twice the area to disperse the heat into. You can picture what happens from that point on. Simply put it makes for a better vap..It's nice to be able to not settle on a 1.5 ohm atty and use the highest ohm coil that can supply the vapor you want,for that you need power. Thats the way I see it.
You can equal up the watts ie, 1.5 ohms 3 volts 2 amps or 3.0 ohms 6v 2 amps. The math equals out but that's not where it ends. The 3 ohm coil has twice the surface area and while it throws out the same power/photons it does so in a manner that it has twice the area to disperse the heat into. You can picture what happens from that point on. Simply put it makes for a better vap..It's nice to be able to not settle on a 1.5 ohm atty and use the highest ohm coil that can supply the vapor you want,for that you need power. Thats the way I see it.
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I'm pretty darn happy with my LT, and I stopped in at DFWVapor (local to me) a couple of weeks ago planning to buy another one, which would be kept as a backup in case I lost mine or it died. I abuse it, and I take it out to bars and leave it on my table while I go dance. It's just a matter of time before something happens.
The guy who runs DFWVapor talked me out of buying another one - telling me that in a few weeks he would have an improved version available for about the same money. That made a good impression. He could have made a sale, I'd have paid and been happy, but he told me that he could make me a better deal if I waited a few weeks and that since I was only getting it for a backup, I should wait. That's good customer service.
I can't tell if you're intentionally being a jerk and misrepresenting what he said, of if you're just too stupid to read what he wrote. Either way, you look like a fool.
Best explanation I've read anywhere. I've seen most of the same info but not tied together so nicely. Thank you!
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