Triple wick coil

[Ezkill]

Huh, I haven't even contemplated a dual coil but now I'm intrigued.

Would that literally just be two sets of wires both grounded and both going under the positive nut or is it a bit more complex? I guess the questions is do you need double the NR leads or can it all be made into one. All I can see from Bruce's picture is a lot of wire but I can't see the connections.

 

[Bishopheals]

Here are the two pics at 32 gauge i sized it up perfectly 2 and 1/2 inches long then I folded the wire to half and i twirled it all the way to end without cutting anything. As for the NR Wire i didnt do nothing special I left it the same. Since the distance gets reduced by half you will get less coils and in a 3 wick go to have it really snugged. Though for this setup its easier doing a 2 wick than a 3 wick. I have 2 pens so i have one with 3 and other with 2 Im still testing it out. So far I am able to do the same vap technique which is hold power for 5-6 seconds and inhale slow slow slow to my lungs. MMmm this gives an added bonus to heat and and flavor. A must try guys you will love it.

This gives me exactly .8 to .9 ohms

 

[imeothanasis]

axaxa, no way Bish. Mouthpiece is long with small hole and the mouthpiece is parallel with the wire and flat on its base to stop liquid or liquid's exlposions

.8 ohms jeeez that coil must be screaming with heat and at 3.7volts. Try it at .5 ohms maybe you get that juice jumping out of its tank at 3.2 volts.

 

[imeothanasis]

put provari aside and use a mod with no electonics on it or a mod that allows more current via it. You will see that I am right

holy crap man IMEO my meter reads .7 to .8 ohms. IMEO, IMEO what have you done to me. Im pumping at 3.6volts my provari wont let it go past 3.6 without getting E1. Dang Provari with its safety feature. I tell you good freaking vape with 3 wicks. What I did was I folded the R wire in half and twisted it then i added the NR wire and by shorting the distance and enlarging the coil wow nice with 3 wicks. its an explosion of sizzles and hot hot hot moist vapes.

 

[imeothanasis]

axaxa, that why I tried to make an atomizer that can vape at any volts without a burn taste kill. I was so bored with limited atomizers!!!

lol, you're replying with this to the guy who does LR coils at 6v . . . Imeo likes to vape on the wild side ;-) And while you're at it, see if you can find rweschler's videos of his 30 watt hits. He likes his vapes extreme, too

 

[imeothanasis]

10 watts at 0,7 wire is 2,6 volts Ez. Electronic devices dont let you vape as you want. You have to follow their rules

4.2 volts on a .7ohm coil on a Katana. It just about killed me. I juiced the hell out of the mesh before firing. Holy crapola it was something massive. I couldn't get the ProVari over 3.4 or something.

Once my Kick comes in i'll try to dump 10 watts into a .7ohm coil and see what happens. I seriously doubt it will let me because I'm sure the kick has some sort of safety stuff built in.

 

[imeothanasis]

Nah, the Kick won't fire that. The safety mechanisms in it are pretty sensitive

Bishop, I can't find the video I was thinking of right now, but I know he posted it in the GG subforum somewhere a while back

 

[Bishopheals]

SWEEEEEET CINNAMON TITTIES!!! now thats awesome.

 

[Ezkill]

10 watts at 0,7 wire is 2,6 volts Ez. Electronic devices dont let you vape as you want. You have to follow their rules

Yes, you are of course correct.

I wasn't thinking when I wrote that. I did the .7 ohm coil on a mechanical mod and put in a fresh 4.2 volt battery. I actually didn't check how much it pushed under load but being unregulated I imagine it would be somewhere close to that.

The second part is were I wasn't thinking:

2.6*2.6/.7 = 9.65 watts

So you are very right, getting the kick will simply reduce the amount of volts I could put through the coil.

You'll have to pardon me I'm still new to this and I'm a financial guy. I get easily confused with this stuff

 

[imeothanasis]

no worries buddy, it happens to all of us

 

[JthaBigVapor]

Hey tho.. Hey... Imeo... Nice Shirt

But besides that wow, I didnt catch the iatty clip from your viedos when I was lookin, guess I didnt go back far enough lol.

Thoes appear to be very serious clouds you got goin on there, some shots, I couldnt even see your face...


SSSShhhhhhwwwweeeeetttttt

 

[CyberDj]

Excellent Bruce Im still using the triple coil i made last night. i got it at .8 ohms you beat me by .02 points. I notice that the heat is excellent and very moist with no girgly. Well lets face it I dont really need to close the flow control much. the amount of heat this packs is unbelievable and it will dry the wick fast if no jucie is present to keep it moist. I leave the flow control open a full turn and I vape away for a good 5 second slow pull. Mmmmm no metal tasting just pure HOT HOT moist vape. I love this thing I got to thank Imeo advising me to try .9 ohms. Thats what got me thinking of making a dual coil and when i got it to .8 ohms. WOW it was a burst of heat even on my ProVari at 3.5 volts. I try to push it past 3.5 only able to get it to 3.8v till ProVari goes into PMS mode telling me E1 (built in safety feature). Even at 3.7v this thing hits like a Freight train so if your an amateur beware this vape will kill you lol.

How did you manage your ProVari to get to work with 1.8 ohms? My first dual coil was 0.9 and I could not go low enough not to get the E1 message (I have the V1, which has 2.5 amps limit). Maybe you have the V2 with 3.5 amps?

 

[CyberDj]

holy crap man IMEO my meter reads .7 to .8 ohms. IMEO, IMEO what have you done to me. Im pumping at 3.6volts my provari wont let it go past 3.6 without getting E1. Dang Provari with its safety feature. I tell you good freaking vape with 3 wicks. What I did was I folded the R wire in half and twisted it then i added the NR wire and by shorting the distance and enlarging the coil wow nice with 3 wicks. its an explosion of sizzles and hot hot hot moist vapes.

And what about your battery lifetime? Mine drop to about half though my DC was just 1.8 ohms... (I could not make it lower due to my ProVari being V1)

 

[BigErn]

I am trying to learn about this topic and have just recieved my penelope. What type of change does reducing the coils cause to ohms? I was using a glv super mini to vape with a single wick, 4 wraps on the wick, 100% VG juice. It did pretty well, a bit airy but good flavor, no burning taste for the whole tank. I just rewrapped a double wick with only three coils over it and the vapor production is VERY minimal. I'm not very educated in electrical/voltage areas, but am trying to learn whatever I can on the forum. Thanks!

 

[Ezkill]

What are you using to power your Penelope? Is it variable voltage?

Reducing the number of coils will only change the ohms if the length of the resistance wire is shorter. The amount of coils themselves should have no bearing. 4 coils around a single wick is the same as 1 coil around 4 wicks as long as the wire length remains the same.

That being said if your ohms are too high for the voltage you push through them then it won't work very well. If you are not using a variable voltage device and using a single 3.7 volt batter then you are vaping at an average of 3.7 volts. 4.2-3.2 volts as the battery drains.

 

[BigErn]

hi again, Ezkill, I am using the penelope on a Provari. I am reading 1.3 ohms with three coils wrapped around a wick (3mm with an additional strand wrapped with it). I am getting good vapor production now, but I am not sure what the best voltage setting would be, mainly trying to get the best flavor without burning the wick.

 

[Ezkill]

With variable voltage your ohm's dont matter so much. The vape you experience is based on the watts you are putting through the coil.

For instance to put 8 watts through a 2ohm coil you need 3.9 volts.
To put 8 watts through a 3ohm coil you need 4.8 volts.

That will give you an identical vaping experience as it's all about the wattage. The formula for watts is Volts squared divided by ohms. So in the above example for the 2ohm coil 3.9*3.9/2 = 7.6 watts(rounded to 8 above)

So with a ProVari you can adjust for the ohm of your coil. HOWEVER a lower resistance coil will drain your batteries much faster then a higher resistance coil. A 2ohm coil using the same wattage(different voltage) will drain your batteries something like 25 percent faster due to higher amp draw on the battery.

Hope the above makes sense.

 

[Bishopheals]

Sorry I been away on the road haven't had much access to the forums.

@Big Ez is right. As for my .8 ohm It worked very well. I do have ProVari V2 but that shouldn't matter. You can push the volts from 3.2v-3.5v if you you chain vape a lot on 3.5v you will get E1 error. If that happens to me I drop it to 3.4v then i raise it up again to 3.5v

As for the coil I uploaded the photo the total size and after I twirled it. So far this method has been my favorite.

 

[BigErn]

Hey guys, thanks for the info! I just spent about two hours trying to create a "perfect" coil. I used Kanthal A1 and soft silver no res wire. I made a "dual coil" and wrapped it around a 3mm wick doubled over. It is reading EXACTLY 1.0 ohm on my Provari V2, and I cannot raise power above 3.4. It is a pretty good vape, but I find that in order to get *big* clouds of vapor, I have had to change the way I draw on it. I usually take pretty fast, analog-like pulls, but for this coil, I find that pulling very slowly for about 5-8 seconds is the only way to get a good blast. I mouth inhale, so this is actually a pretty good vape. LOTS of flavor coming out, very low throat hit (12 mg nic), and a big cloud of vapor. I still don't understand how to make the coil higher resistance. Do I use a longer piece of resistance wire (as in use same coils but don't cut off the excess, wrap it in twists to the no-res wire?) I want to make a 3.0 ohm coil, I'm not sure what this "dual coil" set up is offering me vs. a single coil setup. I just got all my wire so I'm experimenting with coils to try to learn. Thanks for any advice you have!

 

[K3RRY]

Hey guys, thanks for the info! I just spent about two hours trying to create a "perfect" coil. I used Kanthal A1 and soft silver no res wire. I made a "dual coil" and wrapped it around a 3mm wick doubled over. It is reading EXACTLY 1.0 ohm on my Provari V2, and I cannot raise power above 3.4. It is a pretty good vape, but I find that in order to get *big* clouds of vapor, I have had to change the way I draw on it. I usually take pretty fast, analog-like pulls, but for this coil, I find that pulling very slowly for about 5-8 seconds is the only way to get a good blast. I mouth inhale, so this is actually a pretty good vape. LOTS of flavor coming out, very low throat hit (12 mg nic), and a big cloud of vapor. I still don't understand how to make the coil higher resistance. Do I use a longer piece of resistance wire (as in use same coils but don't cut off the excess, wrap it in twists to the no-res wire?) I want to make a 3.0 ohm coil, I'm not sure what this "dual coil" set up is offering me vs. a single coil setup. I just got all my wire so I'm experimenting with coils to try to learn. Thanks for any advice you have!

to increase the ohms go with a smaller gage res. wire. I got exactly 3 ohms with 36awg nichrome on my penelope