What do you hate about vaping?

[Old Greybeard]

Glass bottles. Custard.

I suppose it was one of these quirks of fate, the first juice I really got into was based on a custard, so out of all the genres, they are my "go to". Am getting into bakeries as well, but fruits I have a love hate relationship with. Lemons are OK'ish, as are some strawberry and citrus orange etc. Passion fruit, blueberry and Peach I haven't managed to get to grips with yet. Candies are too artificial I find, although not as bad as I imagined. tobacco's are either really good or bad, I love TFA Western. I could sniff that stuff all day.

 

[Shade42]

I hate arguing with ignorant people about it.

 

[CMD-Ky]

I hate arguing with ignorant people about it.

That's pretty much 85% of the population, I hate that, too, so I quit. Not worth the hassle.

 

[Katdarling]

I wondered when someone would bring up my pet peeve about vape/vaping/vapers.

You got it, Shade and CMD.

 

[RebeccaD]

I hate seeing people vape who are doing it wrong.

Totally out of curiosity, how would someone have to vape to be doing it wrong? I can't imagine that....unless they are sucking the wrong end of their Juul?

 

[smacuser]

Totally out of curiosity, how would someone have to vape to be doing it wrong? I can't imagine that....unless they are sucking the wrong end of their Juul?

I love ECF. I try to help folks who come here everyday and ask how to do it right.

 

[Fidola13]

Another pet peeve is when someone says - I’m “ROCKING “ a .000001 ohms coil!

Cool dude

 

[Brewdawg1181]

Totally out of curiosity, how would someone have to vape to be doing it wrong? I can't imagine that....unless they are sucking the wrong end of their Juul?

You can't be serious, Rebecca? If you're not doing it like me, you're doing it wrong!

 

[Jebbn]

I hate seeing people vape who are doing it wrong.

I'm doing it wrong right now.

 

[smacuser]

I'm doing it wrong right now.

That's because you live in Australia, not fair .

 

[Ben Killeen]

The fact that Finland has regulated the sale of anything vape related to the point.....
A) can’t buy online even from over seas.
B) companies here can not advertise online or in the high street.
C) you can not buy premade juices, DIY only.
D) strongest nicotine and biggest size available is 18mg in a 10ml bottle.
E) the price of everything here, eleaf invoke 220w mod for 80e!

 

[Hoggy]

You can't be serious, Rebecca? If you're not doing it like me, you're doing it wrong!

Completely agree!

If you don't DIY, you're doing it wrong.
If you like wattages above 40 watts, you're doing it wrong.
If you make the same mix more than once, you're probably doing it wrong.
And lastly, if you're not purchasing many of your flavor concentrates in 4 or 16 ounces, you're definitely doing it wrong!

 

[Izan]

The fact that Finland has regulated the sale of anything vape related to the point.....
A) can’t buy online even from over seas.
B) companies here can not advertise online or in the high street.
C) you can not buy premade juices, DIY only.
D) strongest nicotine and biggest size available is 18mg in a 10ml bottle.
E) the price of everything here, eleaf invoke 220w mod for 80e!

Finland earned 880 million from tobacco products in 2015. They MUST protect that monopoly.
Public health?
Sure...no tobacco products at all by 2040...(If they can find another way to to earn almost a billion per year on a product that can't be advertised nor displayed.)

Ben, If you need anything, I'd be happy to receive it and ship it on to you.

Stay warm.
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[Jman8]

I could nitpick about the umpteen things that come up in my vaping experience, but I don't hate any of them. I actually often end up learning something and making the overall experience better.

What's been said on the thread already (several times) and what I really hate is the politics around vaping. I've been vaping since 2011 and there's never been a time in that period where the politics weren't a BFD. The propaganda against vaping I detest. I'm done giving a pass to the ignorant. Bring something up about vaping from the anti perspective, and your argument will be destroyed by me. I won't hold back. No more playing nicey nice.

With that said, I took a long break from ECF because too much talk about the pros of vaping, along with the politics gets tiresome. More so when there are alleged vapers who are spouting nonsense regarding youth use or nicotine is highly addictive or vaping is harmful. I used to enjoy the 6000 debates a year we would have on those topics, but no so much anymore.

I'm more likely to come to ECF for product assistance than for other things. I'm glad the forum keeps going and that there are lots and lots of tangents to explore on this forum.

 

[EIHYPI]

I'm a bit late to this thread but what I hate most about vaping is how my friend for example spends so much money on vaping, attempting to quit smoking but keeps turning to that cigarette after another quitting resolution. Why does it have to be that for me and others vaping does the trick but for others they still need a cigarette after getting all that nicotine?Why can't (I mean I wish) vaping just work for all smokers? Obviously I know that there's a lot of factors that goes into it but this is just my feelings regarding the issue.

 

[Hoggy]

Why does it have to be that for me and others vaping does the trick but for others they still need a cigarette after getting all that nicotine?Why can't (I mean I wish) vaping just work for all smokers? Obviously I know that there's a lot of factors that goes into it but this is just my feelings regarding the issue.

Some people may not latch on to the idea that behavioral changes are also needed. Yet others may know that, but have such a hard time getting past those behavioral factors.
By behavioral factors, I mean like enjoying the solitude outdoors while they are 'forced' to go outside. Others may be privileges.. For instance, if I was still able to work, there would be no way I'd completely quit the nasties - since they offered a way for some extra (in my case, desperately needed) breaks from work.

 

[Jman8]

Why does it have to be that for me and others vaping does the trick but for others they still need a cigarette after getting all that nicotine?Why can't (I mean I wish) vaping just work for all smokers? Obviously I know that there's a lot of factors that goes into it but this is just my feelings regarding the issue.

Because you asked, I think another way to look at it is some people still enjoy smoking. I'd be one of those people. I very very rarely smoke, but when I do, I enjoy it. Not all the time. Sometimes a smoke does taste nasty to me, but sometimes vaping does. Heck, sometimes (eating) steak tastes bad to me, and I love eating steak.

I do think a rather significant mistake we (humanity) made was framing eCigs as a way to get off of smoking. Though it stems from the anti-smoking propaganda that overwhelming majority have bought into, including most vapers. So, many of us have this attitude of you better quit smoking if you know what's good for you.

But smoking in moderation I think can be a very good thing. And ought to be an acceptable thing, I think, for everyone. Yet, we don't live in that world. I'm one who thinks smoking in moderation is acceptable and borderline fantastic. Vaping allows for that. So let that be the goal we all seek for smokers. Might take them 30 days to get there, or might take them 10 years. But I think all smokers would eventually get there. And still think a vast majority would get to a point where they no longer have a desire to smoke again. Great. But for those of us who don't need a smoke, yet still enjoy them, let us co-exist peacefully.

 

[Ben Killeen]

Finland earned 880 million from tobacco products in 2015. They MUST protect that monopoly.
Public health?
Sure...no tobacco products at all by 2040...(If they can find another way to to earn almost a billion per year on a product that can't be advertised nor displayed.)

Ben, If you need anything, I'd be happy to receive it and ship it on to you.

Stay warm.
I

Thanks man!
Appreciate the offer

 

[DaveP]

This time graph shows cigarette sales over time. It's interesting to watch the states turn from red to green as the years roll by. I'd like to see a similar time graph for the rise of vaping. Of course, so many quit without vaping that there's no sense of balance as vaping began to grow as smokers quit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...smoking-over-40-years/?utm_term=.f847c23dadc6

 

[RebeccaD]

Completely agree!

If you don't DIY, you're doing it wrong.
If you like wattages above 40 watts, you're doing it wrong.
If you make the same mix more than once, you're probably doing it wrong.
And lastly, if you're not purchasing many of your flavour concentrates in 4 or 16 ounces, you're definitely doing it wrong!

That's silly. You must be joking right? If you don't feel like going through the hassle of making your own you're doing it wrong? I buy premade and there are KICKASS premade flavours, especially if your not a cheapskate. I always assumed that only broke people make their own because they always go on about how much cheaper it is.
Vaping at different temperatures - frankly, depending on the flavour, what it's made of and the VG/PG ratio call for different temps. That's why I have 4 sub ohm tanks with 4 different coils and 4 different juices going at all times. I just screw them off and on. Different juices need different coils and temp setups. One temp and one set up for all juices??? That's asinine! You must be joking and your tone isn't coming through.
However someone likes to vape, that's their buisness and you can't throw judgements on them. In fact, I shouldn't be judging the weird rules that YOU have in place for yourself regarding vaping. You do you. But I CAN give you hell for thinking you can TELL people they are doing it wrong. I thing you do it wrong but I'm not going to judge that....you do you bro!